The axe size is fine to me, some I would even say too large (titan axe to name one). One of the reasons why I think bravura is the best looking axe, perfect size and just has a simple yet nice design. My problem is that there aren't that many axes I actually like. Many of the lower level ones are standard axes, very barbarian looking or look like gardening tools.
Why are Warrior Axes so tiny?
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05-06-2015, 06:02 PMVargasVermillion
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05-06-2015, 06:25 PMRiardon
The Axe sizes are normal. What is NOT normal is holding and swinging an axe larger than yourself. In a game that many things are not very logical and physics laws are totally broken let's at least have something that does make sense. I know it's a JRPG but this is one of the reason Western RPGs took over. They look more "realistic" compared to the Asian ones. You can make a fantastic world with fantastic creatures and magic without breaking too much physics laws and logical assumptions. Some axes are smaller than others and some are bigger than others but all are in the logical proportions. Perhaps its your gear that's too fat and makes the axe tiny.
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05-06-2015, 06:41 PMYshnal
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4127/4...8628be1d_b.jpg
Is that big enough?
Seriously now, I think that it's good that not all of them are the same size, and that they aren't stupidly big either. Choice and all, because some people like them bigger and some others smaller. -
05-06-2015, 06:52 PMFelisMost of the lv 1-49 gears and weapons were designed during 1.0 by the Tanaka team with "keep it real" in mindQuote:
Originally Posted by Wobi
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05-06-2015, 07:45 PMDitto
I think people are forgetting what a Warrior is here. A Warrior is an embodiment of wrath, rage, whatever. It's that rage that has them choose pure offense, and larger axes, which in a fantasy scene, has a much, much larger impact than smaller ones. The Titan axe is beautiful in size. When you swing it, it actually feels like you're swinging a weapon that is appropriate for what you are, a beast that destroys whatever is in it's path with ridiculous amounts of force, when you CHOOSE to.
Sure not all of them should be ginormous, but please, keep 'realism' out of this. It's a Final Fantasy MMO, there isn't much 'realistic' about it, and it certainly shouldn't be the goal of the developers.
A lot of the low level axes, the way I see it, are made that way because they're the weapons you would see basic Marauders use, in Limsa for example. They're slim, easy to handle, they certainly look light, but that's because they're made with 'trainee' in mind. A Warrior is an entire step up. You've mastered your axe as your chosen weapon more so than any Marauder would. There comes a time when you gotta take take the training wheels off your bike, and then throw the bike away and get a really big axe to swing around instead.
P.s. There is nothing realistic about the game to begin with. Warriors swinging huge axes around isn't 'normal' by your standards? Then what is, in this game? Dragoons jumping a trillion feet into the air and then landing without any type of damage to themselves? Come on now. -
05-06-2015, 07:50 PMEvangela
because you're a low level marauder.
every job has small weapons when they're low level. Gladiators' low level swords look like a toothpick. It's not just warrior.
concept arts are based on their AF and relics. -
05-06-2015, 07:54 PMSpookyGhost
Garuda's Scream, Dual Haken, Crag Axe, and Dread Axe are all pretty big. The new Relic in 3.0 also seems pretty big - hopefully that's a sign of things to come.
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05-06-2015, 08:55 PMFelisDragoon was created long long after the lv 1-49 axes, while Tanaka was already history. Or show me a jumping Lancer before the job system came ingame. The only "jump" skill the Lancer had was 1/2 meter high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditto
And because the animation lock of the skills the axes also feeled heavy, because the next skill can only start after the movement of the last skill stopped (inclusive the character finding his balanced stand again). -
05-06-2015, 10:47 PMZeratoTyraelFor some reason this reminded me of an evil version of Subaru from .dothack sign lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by KarstenS
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05-06-2015, 10:51 PModintius
I'm just waiting for berserker job with great axes what I can dream can't I >.>
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05-06-2015, 11:16 PMRbstr
I think they're fine. Most of them retain some plausibility. Some are super huge, some aren't.
The Bravura is a perfect size IMO. -
05-06-2015, 11:28 PMTint
in real life 2-hand battle axes are actually smaller than the small axes in game xD these super big axes are just for show, for an public execution perfect
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05-06-2015, 11:56 PMAureyo
This thread is funny. My Dread Axe looks just fine.
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05-07-2015, 12:32 AMLineageRazorWell, the game kind of already betrays this notion by making a WAR a tanking job. More than ANY DPS job in the game, the flavor text behind WAR talks about blood 'n guts 'n rending your enemies and whatever, but in practice, WAR's job is to hold enemies in place and keep them from beating on your buddies. A ridiculously oversized axe just compounds the silliness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ditto
LUDICROUSLY HUGE AXE ATTACK!!!
Itty bitty damage numbers...
WAR should've been a DPS job from the start, given the lore of them being bloodthirsty combatants thirsting for blood, but since they're not, huge weapons just make them ridiculous. A NIN poking an enemy with his cute li'l pigstickers should not be doing twice the damage a great axe swing does... -
05-07-2015, 01:15 AMNatashio
Though what you say does make a lot a sense... It will never work that only one job is a tank job, in a game where a Duty Finder/cross server method is predominate way of getting content done.
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05-07-2015, 03:47 AMmyaheleYou'd be surprised how many WARs out dps the dpsQuote:
Originally Posted by LineageRazor
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05-07-2015, 03:58 AMConradusThat's what she said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkerin
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05-07-2015, 06:02 PMLTEvil
I support bigger axes. I support emperor fist weapons for monk. I support non baby sized shields for pld. I support less robe armor. (Seriously my war robe is longer than my sch lol what?) but mainly just make sure drk weapons are not realistic at all.
Realism in a fantasy game. That's the best joke I've heard today. -
05-07-2015, 06:33 PMVargasVermillionDPS that lose to a tank have done something wrong though. Anyway weapon type is irrelevant to the actual damage dealt since in the lore they are destructive forces to be feared.Quote:
Originally Posted by myahele
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05-07-2015, 06:35 PMVargasVermillionPretty much none of the axes are logical sizes anyway. Real battle axe heads are quite tiny by comparison, even on two handed ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riardon
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05-07-2015, 06:57 PMRylaiBluecrow
Speaking of which... the freaking Ragnorak is too puny and thin for my taste. Bravura is kinda small to begin with, and now this. Blergh.
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05-08-2015, 06:57 AMIllyaI noticed this as well, it's like the CGI team at Visual Works understands how to make fantasy weapons look big and imposing but the weapon design team for the game missed the memo.Quote:
Originally Posted by myahele
The Spaceship Axe (Ironworks Axe) is also similarly comically small looking, like the Bravura/Ragnarok.
I hope starting in Heavensward they'll make WAR axes nice and big and mean looking. Otherwise, well, the suitably large and mean looking DRK Greatsword in the benchmark is looking awfully nice right now... -
05-08-2015, 07:52 AMmonochromicorn
Considering the look of the new AF armor in hw, I think we will be seeing some larger axes. I like the look of the axes as they stand now.
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05-08-2015, 08:27 AMEvergreyMight look better if you compair with a race about the same size and structure. As we know that items scale differently for each race/size.Quote:
Originally Posted by myahele
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05-08-2015, 10:23 AMHiruke
I don't think you guys know what the word "tiny" means. Axes look fine, egis look fine. Deal with it.