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06-21-2011, 12:32 AM
Seraphita

If anyone pays money to play this game as is beyond the $10 off the shelf you gotta be smoking some bad granola.
They need a near full game redesign before i pay SE a dime.
This game had so much potential to be great and they just screwed it hard, i dont know how they did so poorly even after 5years of making the game and continually pushing back release and still releasing it too early lol
SE really let me down on this project, and it really shakes my confidence in them.
06-21-2011, 12:38 AM
Elexia

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Originally Posted by Seraphita

If anyone pays money to play this game as is beyond the $10 off the shelf you gotta be smoking some bad granola.
They need a near full game redesign before i pay SE a dime.
This game had so much potential to be great and they just screwed it hard, i dont know how they did so poorly even after 5years of making the game and continually pushing back release and still releasing it too early lol
SE really let me down on this project, and it really shakes my confidence in them.

To clear misinformation:

1. FFXIV was in production 2 - 3ish years, not the full 5 years. It was merely announced 5 years ago and the tech demo was just a video demonstration of the 360 graphical capabilities.
2. They didn't want the game to resemble XI too much, this includes the basic and we're here where we are today.
3. The release date was never pushed back. Not once. It has always been TBA 2010, then the higher ups (Wada) wanted the game out at a crucial financial point as they had no major titles for 2010/early 2011 to show on reports.
4. People paid for a featureless and literally "make your own fun" alpha/beta game called Minecraft, so clearly it's not a new concept to pay for a beta.
06-21-2011, 02:05 AM
Eekiki

If there was no profit or sustainability in F2P games, how come Perfect World and NCSoft are rolling in dough?

SE could easily make use of the crysta shop to generate revenue for FFXIV, and someday they will. They just haven't done it yet.
06-21-2011, 03:13 AM
Verecund

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Originally Posted by Elexia

To clear misinformation:

1. FFXIV was in production 2 - 3ish years, not the full 5 years. It was merely announced 5 years ago and the tech demo was just a video demonstration of the 360 graphical capabilities.
2. They didn't want the game to resemble XI too much, this includes the basic and we're here where we are today.
3. The release date was never pushed back. Not once. It has always been TBA 2010, then the higher ups (Wada) wanted the game out at a crucial financial point as they had no major titles for 2010/early 2011 to show on reports.
4. People paid for a featureless and literally "make your own fun" alpha/beta game called Minecraft, so clearly it's not a new concept to pay for a beta.

Wow.

(1) Why is this the customer's fault again?
(2) Do you know what "competition" is? And did you know that businesses must successfully participate in this practice in order to survive?

If a game is officially released, it can no longer be "in beta". It is, for the most part, public ready. SE has not even given us that much... in fact they pretty much had to re-engineer most of the core of the game upon release (and have yet to release the magic patch that will do so)
06-21-2011, 03:22 AM
Wolfie

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Originally Posted by Elexia

2. They didn't want the game to resemble XI too much, this includes the basic and we're here where we are today.

Excuse me, what?

You've got the same races, same single-faction world, same nomenclature and terminology, same control scheme, almost the same menu interface, same deal with the out-of-game config, etc. I won't get into content like monsters, spells, and skills, because those are more of a Final Fantasy thing.

But dude, this game quite literally tried to be FFXI-2.
10-31-2011, 07:15 AM
irongripz

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Originally Posted by TheLove

I really do, now that age of conan online has become free to play very soon.. I think the game should stay free, untill there's way to many people that are playing it....

it wont stay free. 2.0 should be time they start subs. ps3 sales and relaunch hype, should bring in allot of players. maybe.. but even so f2p games are not free lol to enjoy allot of the features you have to buy crap off cash shop.
10-31-2011, 07:20 AM
Vawn

Yeah I'm sure the OP has been sitting around for 4 months to get your opinion on this matter.
10-31-2011, 07:20 AM
HiirNoivl

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Originally Posted by TheLove

I think..

Really? /ten
10-31-2011, 07:56 AM
ChiefCurrahee

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Originally Posted by Azurus

Thing is AoC was actually set to be a major player on the MMO stage however it had a failure of a launch, much like 14, so you could look at AoC and see what 14 may end up being like. MMOs with poor launches rarely recover to a good point.

Most MMOs don't have a second chance at a launch with a console version, which means completely different player base and whole new marketing campaign.
10-31-2011, 08:06 AM
Alerith

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Originally Posted by ChiefCurrahee

Most MMOs don't have a second chance at a launch with a console version, which means completely different player base and whole new marketing campaign.

This.

This isn't just some game SE is going to let die down to a FTP crap game. They are putting in the effort to correct it. Will those efforts pay off? We won't know for real until 2.0.

The thing is that people are severely underestimating a good marketing campaign and E3 presentation. If done right, they could bring it up to an extremely successful level.

Either way, neither side can present their opinion as fact, since nobody knows what's going to happen come 2.0.
10-31-2011, 08:12 AM
Kafeen

Must be Halloween. Dead threads are rising from their graves.
10-31-2011, 08:25 AM
Corrderio

This forum needs an auto-lock feature on threads that haven't been replied to in 60 days...
10-31-2011, 08:26 AM
Wynn

Someone must have been inspired by the necromancer thread
10-31-2011, 08:31 AM
Misteyes

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Originally Posted by Kafeen

Must be Halloween. Dead threads are rising from their graves.

It's because the old thread got locked, so rather than risking modwrath by creating a new thread, someone decided to reanimate an old one.
10-31-2011, 08:36 AM
Rydin

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

This forum needs an auto-lock feature on threads that haven't been replied to in 60 days...

And get rid of Necro-bumps forever
10-31-2011, 08:44 AM
ellohwell

on one hand people say use the search feature, on the other people say dont bump old threads

i hope you guys realise the inconsistency in those mutually exclusive positions
10-31-2011, 08:50 AM
Misteyes

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Originally Posted by ellohwell

on one hand people say use the search feature, on the other people say dont bump old threads

i hope you guys realise the inconsistency in those mutually exclusive positions

When a thread is four months old, don't bump it.

When there's four threads on the same topic on the first page alone, don't make another.
10-31-2011, 09:27 AM
Jhanaka

Hello!

This thread is pretty old and has no bearing as the billing was announced. I will be locking this thread.

Thank you for your understanding and continued comments.

-Senior Game Master Jhanaka

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