SE Censoring Emote ability due to select few is not the answer.

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Originally Posted by Krystalynn

Seeing people cuddle is totally inappropriate? They better remove /grovel and sitting on benches then.

This is the most absurd mmo dev team in the history of the genre.

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What people wanted to do with this emote I'm pretty sure isn't called cuddling.

I think the crux of the issue is that they released content and then limited it to such a small percentage of the population - on some servers it is over 20 million for the SMALLEST house.

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Originally Posted by Mezolitik

You don't know what it's like out there.

One minute, you're crafting some spectacles; the next, somebody is using /thrust in your face.

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Its only a matter of time until you're crafting some gear for an FC mate and you look up in horror to find some random Dragoon has whipped out his Gae Bolg +1 and is brushing it against your face.

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Originally Posted by Makior72

I have never once heard of anyone using this game exclusively as a 'sex meetup' do people perform in appropriate / sexual emotes? Absolutely. Do they pick up the game for the sole purpose of running around cybering anyone who isn't afk (and some who are?) I think not.

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how does that refute my point? there is nothing stopping me from playing games on my 3ds while also using it to distribute porn to minors via swap note

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Originally Posted by jars

how does that refute my point? there is nothing stopping me from playing games on my 3ds while also using it to distribute porn to minors via swap note

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Please explain to me the part of any emote currently in the game that is pornographic. I have yet to see a nipple or genitals in this game. Further more, this game is rated teen, it also requires internet access to play. So assuming everyone playing is at least 13 and has the internet I can safely say that minors viewing a miqote doing /angry with someone right behind her doing / cheer is the least of our problems. The game is not the issue nor is the content, the issue is the user. If seeing the previously mentioned series of emotes would offend someone, that person needs to gtfo and/or grow some thicker skin. Welcome to the internet.

And as far as the 3ds aanalogy is concerned, firstly I would like to point out that it is an apples to oranges comparison. Secondly, you are not required to use that feature of the 3ds anyway. And in all honesty if you are going to interact with a complete stranger over the internet eeven if it IS on a device who's primary market is children, you should probly realize you may receive inappropriate pictures text or what have you. On the internet nothing is sacred and everything goes. Dont want your kid to receive adult content online? Use parental Controls tto filter what you can and good common sense as a parent to filter what the Controls cant catch. I'm so sick of SE treating everyone in this game like they are ten. (Which at the end of the day is the real issue at hand) I do not possess the capacity to care less than I already do about /doze. What I do care about is being policed by a company that I am paying to entertain me. If I find entertainment in /doze Ing for any reason, in on or around anything, who am I hurting and why should I/they care?

That's really weak. I didn't even get to try it out yet :(

We just want more freedom. Mum SE control us too much.

Since you quoted from a thread, I'll counter-quote what I think was the best answer in that thread:

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

No more petitions please. They really dont care or listen anyway. Whoever decided to limit screen shots on such a dumb thing is a hypocrite. This game lets you escort a hooker to her john and NO it is not implied, it clearly states in the text what she is doing when you use her title as courtesan in context. Implication is a fine line. I can make a V with my fingers and put it up to my lips and 90% of you will know what I am implying, at least in this country, I would assume that can translate everywhere. But the point is its still only implications which can be interrupted by the person any way they choose. So SE needs to pull the stick from the bum and get over it, its a game, and if you dont like it, dont play it. Its not like anyone can sue them over this, so why are they slapping a moral code on something that does not need it?

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give the game a mature rating then the problem is solved.

While they are at it, lets go ahead and get rid of all forms of chat in the game. After all, people can say inappropriate things. Get rid of the rest of the emotes, they are already abused anyway. We'll just stand there and stare at each other doing nothing. Very social!

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Originally Posted by Makior72

I have never once heard of anyone using this game exclusively as a 'sex meetup' do people perform in appropriate / sexual emotes? Absolutely. Do they pick up the game for the sole purpose of running around cybering anyone who isn't afk (and some who are?) I think not.

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Players will still find a way to do certain things but at the same time SE probably does not want to get raged on when people can do it with ease due to "convenient features". I can understand both sides but the rating on the game package should define the limits so that customers are prepared for what to expect when their youths play and others know what to expect as well.

It reminds me of when I saw a pile of K.O. characters that tactfully and creatively fell into specific poses on a bed because it was the only way for the character physically lay down. Trust me, it is done regardless of how the game itself intends to enable it! The difference is that censoring excludes the game developer from blame where providing content can make them liable for it.

Yes people do cruise mmorpg for this type of play. "Exclusive" can imply that they do nothing else in the game but exclusively cybering.. really they can also level their characters and use the other features of the game in addition to sequestering a large amount of game play for ___ time. It does not have to be purely one or the other for some one to be highly active in both.

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Originally Posted by MStowastiqVahlshdeh

Players will still find a way to do certain things but at the same time SE probably does not want to get raged on when people can do it with ease due to "convenient features". I can understand both sides but the rating on the game package should define the limits so that customers are prepared for what to expect when their youths play and others know what to expect as well.

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Being able to use emotes pretty much anywhere in the game is standard in MMOs. I can't think of a single MMO I have played other than this one that limits what emotes you can use in what areas. What makes this game different from the others?

I think with this thread, i'm done visiting general discussion with any intent of finding useful discussion. I cannot believe this has reached 6 pages of QQ about something to ridiculously trivial.

So square wants to keep the visual integrity of the overworld intact by not letting idiots run around /trust-ing in people's mouths and giggle to themselves. It doesn't hurt anyone to be able to do it, but it most certainly isn't hurting anyone who cant. If it does, then that's a different issue in itself.

And i thought League of Legends' GD was bad.

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Originally Posted by Mysteran

Being able to use emotes pretty much anywhere in the game is standard in MMOs. I can't think of a single MMO I have played other than this one that limits what emotes you can use in what areas. What makes this game different from the others?

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It is up to SE to decide whether or not they intend to censor their content, regardless of the overall trends in other mmorpg's of the same age rating. Its not that the emote can or cannot be used it is what it can be used for. Like I was saying, there is no real way to stop players from doing suggestive things in a game that allows control of a character and the ability to write text. The problem is that people can hold the developer responsible. I personally think its cool as long as the packaging and TOS defines what is allowed so that people know what they bought. I just totally understand why they might not want to allow certain content.

Edit: When a developer puts content in a game they have to deal with policing it too. It is kind of hard to define without being graphic but some mmo's go the route of allowing it, sequestering it to specific and properly marked areas that are age restricted and then police it to protect players from the abuse that the kind of content tends to attract. I realize one emote that can be taken too far is not the same as specific content designed for that use, my point is when it CAN be done it WILL be done and intended use or not, devs have to deal with the subsequent fallout.

If someone decided to sue SE over an emote being used in an adult manner by a player, they would never win. Not in a hundred years.

More and more I am worried about the upcoming vanity slots

SE is censoring everyone and everything, limiting creativity and the freedom for players to do what they want. I'm sure when it gets implemented there's going to be a dozen restrictions in place to the point where it's not even worth it.

The mail restriction is ridiculous, the whisper restriction in dungeons is ridiculous, this emote restriction is ridiculous, why are there so many restrictions?

Censorship is never a good thing

I'm surprised SE doesn't censor /say and /shout, because people might say unkind things!

Since its already been proven to SE that you can make "inappropriate" stuff with whats available right now there really is no reason for them to limit this particular emote.

Infact if this is how SE see things then there is a TON of things they should consider removing since some people could use it for evil purposes.

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Originally Posted by Makior72

For the love of god SE if you want to be my new mother you should at least should marry my dad first.

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We don't even get an allowance either... Damn deadbeat SQE...

But seriously.. this is just getting ridiculous. People will use what they have to create "inappropriate" pictures.. and does square -seriously- think that the people that are in housing won't do the same? Do they think that because they could afford the house, they're more mature than those that would do that kind of stuff in public?

You have one job SQE.. give us a fun and balanced game, not try to protect us from "bad things".

You either need to be an adult, or your parents are allowed you to play the game (technically speaking).. so that means that everyone playing the game should be mature enough to handle a few screenshots of people laying down. I mean, really, if you have any idea of what 'rule 34' is SQE, you should know that there's probably FAR WORSE stuff out there about your game(s) already.

If you're worried about your image taking a hit because of it, grow a pair. There's a town on a particular WoW server that has nothing -but- the worst of the RP community there, everyone who plays the game knows of it's existence; whether they wanted to or not. That being said, I don't think anyone has ever not gone to WoW because of the activities there... But, if you treat the players like you're their nanny, they will get fed up with you because of it and so will potential players.

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Originally Posted by jars

people sending porn to each other on a 3ds with swapnote is a problem
in the same way ff14 being used as a sex meetup is a PR issue for square

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As i just mentioned, WoW.. Moonguard.. Goldshire... It's existed for years. Blizzard has yet to have had a PR scandal over the existence of that putrid cesspit; i think SQE will be fine with giving people the ability to lay down.

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Originally Posted by Edellis

I think with this thread, i'm done visiting general discussion with any intent of finding useful discussion. I cannot believe this has reached 6 pages of QQ about something to ridiculously trivial.

So square wants to keep the visual integrity of the overworld intact by not letting idiots run around /trust-ing in people's mouths and giggle to themselves. It doesn't hurt anyone to be able to do it, but it most certainly isn't hurting anyone who cant. If it does, then that's a different issue in itself.

And i thought League of Legends' GD was bad.

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Just because it's not important to you does not mean it's not important to somebody.

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Originally Posted by Shadowtrek

Just because it's not important to you does not mean it's not important to somebody.

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*Nods* Though, what's important to me isn't so much the ability to lay down where-ever i please, but rather the fact that SQE feels that it should censor and nanny us, as if we can't handle what happens in the game.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

SE may as well disable all emotes entirely, then.

They need to stop with the absurd, arbitrary restrictions on everything they do. Let me use a freaking emote wherever I want.

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I dont know what more disturbing, the fact that someone too the time to find those two emotes and make them look like that, or the fact that there is probably a horny 15yo behind the male, thinking he is banging a hot chick, instead its a 30yo male ped-o-bear (and before you you say i am being anti gay, I am gay myself)

The censoring in this game is crazy, they treat us like little babies yet their game has adultery quests :\

"Fresh Meat"
"No tells whilst in dungeon"

now this...

lmao, cmon square.. this is a T rated game, we aren't 12.

I don't recall any any MMO (aside from hearing something about SWOTR) allowing sex or sexual acts in game. I mean really, you saying we aren't a kids, then why don't you grow up a little and stop complaining you cant stick your epeen in a few well formed pixels

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Originally Posted by Seezur_Undies

I don't recall any any MMO (aside from hearing something about SWOTR) allowing sex or sexual acts in game. I mean really, you saying we aren't a kids, then why don't you grow up a little and stop complaining you cant stick your epeen in a few well formed pixels

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It's an emote... that's like saying "remove /sit because you can t-bag if you spam it"

This emote restriction is quite pointless considering players already can and have used existing emotes to do every lewd action under the rainbow. Cripes, the final hours of beta phase 3 in Ul'dah on my server was basically a cross between an orgy & a circus.

Considering that I'm not gonna be spending much time in my FC's house anyway (when we eventually get one), I can't say this is affecting me much...

Its a lame restriction sure I guess, but not one that's gonna affect me in any meaningful way.

I think the only ones complaining about being treated like a kid are kids and the rest of the adult world couldn't care less about this thread, either side of the argument, or people who pretend to have vidsex.

So they wanna have emoteacourse....who cares?

SE got rid of an emote....who cares?

My only reply to this bs

http://i.imgur.com/8yOUOli.gif

^That guys wins

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Originally Posted by WellGramarye

My only reply to this bs

http://i.imgur.com/8yOUOli.gif

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This is hilarious.

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Originally Posted by Katiyana

Considering that I'm not gonna be spending much time in my FC's house anyway (when we eventually get one), I can't say this is affecting me much...

Its a lame restriction sure I guess, but not one that's gonna affect me in any meaningful way.

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I think the big thing isn't this -one- emote restriction, but rather it's another point in a trend by SQE to censor and/or nanny the players like we can't handle ourselves in an online enviroment. That's what the concern is, not the fact that we can't lay down on a park bench in ul'dah.

I think its just another example of SE short sightedness & laziness. They probably didn't think people would want the /doze animation to apply outside of fc housing, but they could have just asked us (which SE will never learn to actually ask what people paying for their product want) and now people are dissatisfied they make up a lame excuse to avoid doing the work.

Mi'Qote + Large Bust Size + Bard AF/Myth body + Dance emote. Oggle for HOURS.

I used to be a Mi'Qote like you, then boobs got boring so now I'm a Lalafel. They have even better emotes.

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Originally Posted by Seezur_Undies

I dont know what more disturbing, the fact that someone too the time to find those two emotes and make them look like that, or the fact that there is probably a horny 15yo behind the male, thinking he is banging a hot chick, instead its a 30yo male ped-o-bear (and before you you say i am being anti gay, I am gay myself)

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You are gay? Really?? That's interesting!

...oh wait, IT'S NOT.
I know you hope with all your heart that some kind of Anti-Anti-Gay dudes shows around to give you an excuse to make him feel shameful, but I can assure you that wasn't going to happen.
Plus, your argument wasn't even close to trigger that kind of polemic: being deceived is not a matter of sexuality. A gay dude who thinks to speak to a woman, it's still deceived, not happy, when he finds out the other one is a male.

Thanks for sharing, anyway!
I hope everyone will put his sexual orientation as signature, in future.
You know, since it is SO relevant.

While I could care less about it myself. I do find it funny that SE would censor considering the now two quests where I have had to rub men's bodies....

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Originally Posted by Taekrys

You are gay? Really?? That's interesting!

...oh wait, IT'S NOT.
I know you hope with all your heart that some kind of Anti-Anti-Gay dudes shows around\

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Gonna take a stab in the dark and figure you did exactly what you're accusing them of doing. What was the point of this rant just because they said they were gay..? Good job.

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Originally Posted by Makior72

If this emote is removed from open world gameplay then it stands to reason that all other emotes that involve an animation of any sort be removed from open world use as well, since they could potentially be used to offend others or be suggestive in nature.

In case somebody missed it, the above is a sarcastic statement.

For the love of god SE if you want to be my new mother you should at least should marry my dad first.

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Yoshi would make a great mommy. And he has all of those scarves to keep you warm.

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Originally Posted by Wyyote

The only emote I'd like to use when I read threads like this is /facepalm.

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Think of all the devilish debauchery we would have to put up with if they allowed an emote like that.

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Originally Posted by Wyyote

The only emote I'd like to use when I read threads like this is /facepalm.

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Originally Posted by StarMarmot

Think of all the devilish debauchery we would have to put up with if they allowed an emote like that.

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Square would never allow it's existence, i mean.. think of how many facepalm memes would be created? They can't let funny, or possibly inappropriate memes, come from the game.

They're only thinking of the children, y'know.