Post-Split, Caduceus keeps killing my pet :(

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Originally Posted by Krisstina

Then MO macro should solve ur problem_(:з」∠)_
u dont need hotkey for every command on pet bar.

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I mainly hotkeyd everything because I could. I only use dismiss or whatever it was from the petbar, every other skill I'd need is somewhere else. As for mouseover... eh, maybe, but I'd have to get used to that first. The problem is just that that I like to keep my mouse already over the party list. I don't know how that would be a problem.

thats because you are placing her behind caduceus and its killing her with its tail, cant tell u where to place it, depends on your tactic, try to place it ia little bit farther from caduceus

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Originally Posted by Waliel

I mainly hotkeyd everything because I could. I only use dismiss or whatever it was from the petbar, every other skill I'd need is somewhere else. As for mouseover... eh, maybe, but I'd have to get used to that first. The problem is just that that I like to keep my mouse already over the party list.

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in this fight u will want to place her, heals most be focus on tanks and eos can heal dps so, you can concentrate on your tank

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Originally Posted by Garnatian

No, it does not.



No, it's not. Less healing, pure and simple.

This isn't a case of not being able to do those things, it's a case of you not being good enough to do those things on top of manually using Embrace.

This is what we call laziness.

You know what else allows her to heal the Tank? That's right, manual healing.

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lol, u know nothing

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Originally Posted by Waliel

I mainly hotkeyd everything because I could. I only use dismiss or whatever it was from the petbar, every other skill I'd need is somewhere else. As for mouseover... eh, maybe, but I'd have to get used to that first. The problem is just that that I like to keep my mouse already over the party list.

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Then I dont see a problem here....ur mouse should stay with party list with mo macro.
The trick is, u can lock on tank, then mouse over member u want to heal. So u will heal ur tank directly when u move ur mouse off party list, no more switching target is required.

The only downside is, mo macro not absolute reliable. Sometimes u end up healing urself. It isnt often but still risky. So it's ur call.
And u can do a mixed set for like mo macro for cure with ordinary cure II, thus u keep a way to guarantee healing delivery..

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Originally Posted by Krisstina

Then I dont see a problem here....ur mouse should stay with party list with mo macro.
The trick is, u can lock on tank, then mouse over member u want to heal. So u will heal ur tank directly when u move ur mouse off party list, no more switching target is required.

The only downside is, mo macro not absolute reliable. Sometimes u end up healing urself. It isnt often but still risky. So it's ur call.
And u can do a mixed set for like mo macro for cure with ordinary cure II, thus u keep a way to guarantee healing delivery..

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Yes, I have no idea how it would be a problem. Let's go with the classical "it was late in the night and aliens were kidnapping my cat", yes?

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Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros

thats because you are placing her behind caduceus and its killing her with its tail, cant tell u where to place it, depends on your tactic, try to place it ia little bit farther from caduceus

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Tail Swipe hits the fairy for 200-300 and will probably never kill her. It's the frontal cleave that hits her for 3500+ that kills her.

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Originally Posted by Krisstina

I did actually tested it in AK. I watched it and myself never cast a single healing on tank except BOSS fight. Tank HP never dropped below 70% mostly. In some cases tank did get to low HP(less than 1/3), but it healed up eventually and never let tank die.

Proven that by placing it, AI does become more reliable.

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Pretty much this, I just use Leeches / place in AK. Dat delay on manual healing

For healers who use mouseovers to heal(which is definitely the most efficient way of healing), having to manually embrace(click the target and then click the ability) when you get the same amount of healing with proper placement is kind've ridiculous unless you have a gaming mouse. Until they make macro commands for pet abilities so I can mouse over embrace as well, I'll stick to proper placement.

I have never had an issue with mouseovers messing up. You need to make sure that you're in range or you're in line of sight of your target.

I also cringe when I hear people say I only adloquium and embrace(or worse physick and embrace). You just about have endless amounts of MP. Placing your fairy + Adloquium/Physick alternating will yield a steadier tank without the reliance of supplemental heals from the whm.

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Originally Posted by Espon

On a boss like Caduceus, yes, I want her to be healing the tank even when they're at full health as it allows me to heal them that much sooner after they take damage. If I waited for her to decide when to start healing, the tank is likely to suffer another hit before she's done, which is something you don't want when fighting a boss that's capable of dealing 50-70% of the tank's health in damage in less than a second.

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Oh so you're saying you don't shield your tank? Or use CDs for your tank? A 650 heal with the tank at 100% is not going to do anything(unless in the off chance it does somehow catch a spike), that's called overhealing. However putting adloquium on the tank at 100% is more efficient. You'll see a lot of less of your tank dropping 50-70% and a lot more stability.

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Originally Posted by Krisstina

Manual control was nowhere near the same efficiency as AI control. u should noticed the tiny delay before the skill button can respond to ur press after recast. Hence ur manual embrace actually has a recast for about 3.5-4sec, not 3. AI control has no such issue at all, it doesnt even need to wait for the button light up. But usually u dont need to worry about this except some extreme cases. So do what ever u like. But this has nothing to do with placing ur pet or not as u can still manual control after placed it if it try to be lazy.

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If you have testing or a video on this, that would be great. It would settle this debate somewhat. I think most healers would trade 15% greater fairy efficiency for the off-chance that it sends an Embrace to someone besides the tank.

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Originally Posted by YuriRamona

If you have testing or a video on this, that would be great. It would settle this debate somewhat. I think most healers would trade 15% greater fairy efficiency for the off-chance that it sends an Embrace to someone besides the tank.

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Nope just learn to place

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Originally Posted by Thriar

Oh so you're saying you don't shield your tank? Or use CDs for your tank? A 650 heal with the tank at 100% is not going to do anything(unless in the off chance it does somehow catch a spike), that's called overhealing. However putting adloquium on the tank at 100% is more efficient. You'll see a lot of less of your tank dropping 50-70% and a lot more stability.

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You're making assumptions; of course I'm using Adloquium. I was talking about what my fairy is doing. Why should I be worried about overhealing with Embrace? It costs no MP and Scholar threat is almost never an issue. However, with proper timing you can have Embrace land within a second of the tank getting hit, something she will not do on auto-cast because she will not start casting a heal on someone above 85%.

80% actually, but that's just nitpicking.