DevTalk: Chocobo Thread. Riding! Raising! Racing! You Know You Want Your Fix

Seems relevant again. Discuss!

From my translation thread: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post225261
Chocobo Riding coming in 1.19 - Chocobo raising (possible but no release date info yet, only confirmation they are working on it.)

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Raika started a thread about raising pets, gardening, summons and any other ideas people had and Rep responded with the following :)

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Originally Posted by raika

ペット・栽培・養殖・召喚などの育成システム要望スレ

Pet, Gardening, Fish Farming. Summon like raising system ideas thread.

連れて歩けるペットを育てられるられるとか
戦闘で使う「からくり」を作れるとか
モンスターをテイム出来るとか
ＦＦ１０とかＦＦ１２のような感じの召喚獣で変わりに戦ってくれるとか
園芸師が畑で作物を育てられるとか
漁師が海でサンマ養殖出来るとか
採掘師が山でコブラン飼育出来るとか
Raising a pet that you can go out with.
Making a robot that can fight in battles (like FFXI puppet master)
Like FF10 or FF12 where your summoned avatar fights for you.
Gardener being able to grow your own vegetables in a garden.
Fisher being able to raising fish in a fish pond (fish farming)
Miner being able to raising cobran in the mountain

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Originally Posted by Mocchi

こんにちは。
Hello,

ペットの実装について吉田Pに聞いてみたところ、2つの方向性を考えているとのことでした。
I have asked Yoshida Producer regarding implementation of pets, he is thinking of 2 methods for this.

ひとつは誰もが乗ることのできるチョコボなどを育成するようなコンテンツにおけるペット。
もうひとつが特定のジョブだけが従えることのできるペットです。
One being pets where you can raise pets and ride such as Chocobo.
Another being pets where certain jobs can control (probably like BST from FFXI)

この2つはどちらか一方を実装するのではなく、両方とも実装できるように仕様検討を行っているとのことでした。ただ実装時期はまだまだお知らせできる段階ではないため、まずはパッチ1.19で実装予定のチョコボに跨りつつ、お待ちいただければと思います。
They are looking into it so they can implement both features and not only one. But for now we are not at a point where we can give more information, so for now first with Chocobo in 1.19 patch and if you could please wait.

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The dawn of the Age of Chocobo draws near. My body is ready.

Do you guys think there should/will be a time limit? For those unaware of what I am talking about, in previous FFs you could only ride a chocobo for a certain time before it would kick you off basically. Also, how frequent will they be in location? Perhaps at quest hubs and towns?

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Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur

Do you guys think there should/will be a time limit? For those unaware of what I am talking about, in previous FFs you could only ride a chocobo for a certain time before it would kick you off basically. Also, how frequent will they be in location? Perhaps at quest hubs and towns?

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Maybe it depends on if you raise it or rent it?

Updated OP with the new info regarding 1.19 chocobos.

Yoshi-P has been chatting about some of the planned chocobo features for the future:

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

プロデューサ/ディレクタの吉田です。

まず、チョコボについては一回のアップデートで終わらずに、
期間をかけて「コンテンツ化」していこうと考えています。
（時間貸しのチョコボとは別）
簡単にイメージを書くと…

1.マイチョコボを呼べる
2.マイチョコボに乗って移動
3.マイチョコボを連れ歩く
4.マイチョコボを育てる/着せ替えする
5.マイチョコボと一緒に戦える

こんな感じです。仕様は吉田自身で作りましたが、
現時点では実装不能な仕様もあります。ハードルが結構高い…
一気に実装は時間がかかりすぎるので、まずは移動として1と2から始めます。
これがパッチ1.19の予定です。デザインはいずれレターで公開します＾＾

ペットクラスはそれこそ、召喚タイプからテーミングタイプまで、
まだまだ検討段階ですので、どれからいくか、であり、
ひとつに絞る気はないです。どっちもあってよいです。
ただ、バトル改修、クラスバランス調整、Jobシステム実装を考えると、
先にはなりますので、皆さんのアイデアもじっくり拝見していこうかと思ってます。

栽培とかは、するなら庭が欲しいですよねえ、庭の前に家ですねとか言ってみるテスト（ﾎﾞｿ

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

First of all the implementation of Chocobos will not be complete with only one update. This will be a gradual process of content iteration, aside from the chocobo rentals. This is what I'm envisioning for now:


1. Calling a personal chocobo
2. Riding a personal chocobo
3. Walking alongside a personal chocobo
4. Raising and dressing up a personal chocobo
5. Fighting along with a personal chocobo

Something like that. I made those plans myself, but at the present time implementing all of that is impossible since the repairs to the battle system are our main priority.
To implement all these chocobo plans at once would take up too much time, so we are only going to start rolling it out bit by bit. This is the plan with path 1.19, and I'll write a letter sometime later to explain everything.

Regarding pet classes, from summoning pets to taming pets, we are still in the preliminary planning stages, so we don't know which direction we're going to tackle first yet. Either way would be fine. We still need to do all the battle system fixes, class balance adjustments, and implement the job system first before anything else, so we will be looking at any ideas you have for us.

I want to have garden content. Having a house in front of a garden would be nice, huh...let's try test it out.

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Thanks renta! Awesome news.. especially '5. Fighting along with a personal chocobo'. :D

Also a hint about Gardening in housing.

epic news, so excited even if years away but omg houses, gardens, walking with chocobo awwwww and possibly fighting wow <3333 YP

Thanks for the translation Rentahamster.

So this Yoshida guy... He seems to be on the ball here.

Gardens? Yes, please.

Chocobo dressup and combat? I will take my ChocoPope into the throngs of battle with a fierce battle wark!

freaking awesome

edit : I wonder if there ll be different type of chocobo will be add while they code, as either different chocobo color or maybe different in speciality ?

Going to repost this through any appropriate channels 'cause I'm a narcissistic asshole(but seriously, just think about it):

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

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Originally Posted by Raistlin

add a jump system with fatigue (no more than 2 jump in a row)

Allow chocobos to cross zones that u cant walking (high grass zones or something similar)

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Maybe this would be the gateway into adding airborne or island/underwater content. Maybe you'd need a few flying birds to access land that is otherwise unsuited for airship travel, or travel across bodies of water that large objects like ships can't make it through. Maybe dungeons could be accessed this way. They could also create various paths through places, and in order to access alternate routes, you might need chocobos to jump over cliffs or large downed trees or whatever.

...Now that I think of it, a "stamina" meter for chocobos(think of the carrot meter from Ocarina of TIme and such) might be conducive to some interesting racing environments. If you sprint with your bird or leap over an obstacle, the gauge is reduced greatly, while running at reasonable pace would recover the gauge. This might also be good for general traversal to prevent people from going apeshit with it.

Assuming that Yoshida is able to have chocobos combat ready, that might also be an interesting combat mechanic. Say when the stamina gauge is full, you can use like a "choco-charge" attack or maybe different types of abilities based on chocobo type, kind of like the limit breaks for your Wyvern as a Dragoon in FFXI worked. That would add some variety I think.

...I just had an idea sugar shock... >.>

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Originally Posted by Munba

Thanks renta! Awesome news.. especially '5. Fighting along with a personal chocobo'. :D

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Originally Posted by Jmeat

Thanks for the translation Rentahamster.

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Yer welcome ^^

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Originally Posted by Malakhim

Going to repost this through any appropriate channels 'cause I'm a narcissistic asshole(but seriously, just think about it):

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Interesting possible game mechanics. Something to think of down the line, I guess, but like Yoshida said, baby steps.

Please give me chocobo breeding/racing. That was my crack in FFVII.

breeding ? chocobo farm ?

i loved my chocobo in 11 please give me one back, to raise, ride and love, but can i have diff from just yellow please maybe fkecks diff colour in be nice... i also miss my npc pal like mad as i soloed loads, but solo sucks on this.... can i have her back to lol

I liked the idea in FFXI of training your raised chocobo to excel in certain traits ie., Speed, Endurance, Digging, etc., but the actual training as implemented stunk like choco-doodoo.

Since Yoshi is thinking of several things you could do with your chocobo maybe he can implement a better stat raising system.

1. Calling a personal chocobo: Train your choco to increase usage ie., more areas allowed and more "calls" allowed.

2. Riding a personal chocobo: Train your choco to increase maximum riding time (endurance) and speed.

3. Walking alongside a personal chocobo: Train your choco to carry items like a pack mule (expandable) and learn to "Dig" for treasure and possibly alert you to dangers/NMs in the area (but not rideable if over max weight)

4. Raising and dressing up a personal chocobo: Train choco for merchant use or military use and associated gears (each path has it own benefits and drawbacks).

5. Fighting along with a personal chocobo: If choco is Military Trained you can ride it in battle. If it is Merchant Trained, choco will perform simple peck attacks to assist you.

Lots of great ideas on this thread. Let's hope they implement some of them...eventually.

I like the idea of specific mounts for jobs. I wonder if they could implement both ideas. They could have regular chocos for any class, but specific mounts for specific jobs. The reason I'm so interested in this is because it allows the possibility of one of my dream jobs in FFXI Wings of the Goddess which never came to fruition which was the Chocobo Knight. My idea was that the job would act as a "pet style" job that would "call" his pet which would be a mount and then would participate in battle atop their mount. The job would use a spear type weapon and the player would attack from his mount. The player would also be given a pet equipment slot(s) to place choco armor like a breast plate or helmet.

I just hope that we get a lifetime item to call chocobos that we raise. I hated that stupid whistle with charges in 11, and the fact that the majority of them were barely faster than running.

Also, if the system is going to be designed to have to wear the item to call your chocobo, please look into adding a special attachment slot for this, so that we don't have to equip and unequip it in normal gear slots.

I fully endorse this post completely. I stated in another post previously that I wanted Choco raising, renting, and racing. The 3 R's if you will! If they were able to implement the things you stated in your post the game would be glorified rather than scorned by a good deal of players. Mounts are as much a part of MMOs as Chocobos are a part of Final Fantasy, and although I know these ideas are all somewhat inspired by FFXI I think they seem much more refined and player friendly. I feel as though Chocobos are almost half of final fantasy, so having so many chocobo centered activities would really bring the game to life.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post271750

My post here had a few ideas about things to add for chocobos.

Definitely on board for this idea, especially the suggestion for chocobo-mounted combat. <3

Hi Renta,

Fantastic thread that needs bumping. Especially in light of Yoshida-san bringing up the topic of raising your own Chocobos in your personal Garden (from his lengthy Gathering Post today). :)

Hopefully he implements some of these great ideas here!