SE not banning Goldsellers

Disregard this post; was based on a misinterpretation.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

Just an addition, RMT will also hack legitimate sites and install a script that installs a keylogger to anyone visiting the site, or they will have infected ads on legitimate sites (which is why no script and adblockers are suggested) One of the biggest hacks in FFXI was after the popular wiki ffxiclopedia got hacked, a script was installed and masses of people got hacked.

Just because someone doesn't visit dodgy sites doesn't mean they won't get hacked.

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People really should use a powerful anti-virus program. I'm an IT expect, an engineer. The big brands like McAfee/Symantec are generally trash. If you want something that will actually protect you lookup ESET. You're correct though. That's how they do it, not via in game trade, but by infecting your PC when you visit a website and injecting a keylogger onto your system.

They also don't seem to be banning botters as well, this person on my server has been blatantly botting for a month now and they are on right now mine botting as we speak. I've reported him the first time I saw him a month ago and then yesterday again when he was farm botting banemites in north shroud.

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Originally Posted by Livilda

I am of the impression that SE lacks the manpower to ban them in a timely manner, and even if they did, there are always more. It's not actually as bad as it used to be on Balmung.

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let them hire me to do it I'll obliterate the gil spam 8hrs a day and do 100 times as many as SE has to date. it'd take about 20 minutes per server per day for one person to clear 90% of the spammers. just need to make those 8 hrs flexible so the spammers don't know a schedule. it would take 2 days to do all fifty servers.

seriously manpower for this is nominal at best and could seriously deplete the spam accounts they use.

I got hit with 30 at once, most of which all from the same person, it destroyed a chat I was having with some members of my FC. I had to ask them to repeat what they said.

Not only that, but it has even affected when I go into a dungeon and we're discussing how to defeat a specific boss.

Those dungeons are timed, not like we can say, "Oh hey, can we re-discuss everything again that took five minutes to do so? Why? I just got hammered with about 20+ /tell spams and it filled up my entire chat box so I can't see what you guys said, even with scrolling up."

As others above said, not only does something need to be done aside from deleting names that have been deleted already, but the blacklist should be either made into more slots than 200 or left infinite due to the number of spammers out there.

Heck, they should add a feature where those tells are erased as soon as you blacklist someone. Maybe even make it where you can state why you blacklisted someone?

se is banning gil sellers. the problem is they are banning them at a super low rate. they take a long time to investigate reports and during the process 5 new sellers are made. yes, we are getting rid of one every now and then, but too many are being made for them to remove them at such a slow rate. at times it feels like there are more gil sellers in the game than actual players due to the spam you get via tells.

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Originally Posted by Panthera13

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1.) 30 at once is astronomically unlikely. obvious exaggeration.

2.) you can't send and receive /tell while inside an instanced zone.

3.) the chat buffer on PC should be unlimited. or near unlimited. and it won't dead-wall if the buffer is met. it will clear the chat box. and i have only known people to have this issue on the PS3. and this is due to limited RAM. so if you play PS3... edit your chat tab filters. and reduce the amount text input into your chat box. i would suggest starting by turning off all battle entries.

4.) yeah many people with many ideas on something similar. anything more accessible would be appreciated. i can agree there.

5.) how will you copy and paste the content for an RMT report? sure you can try before blacklisting... but then you have to deal with more possible spam. which will disrupt you from copying content properly to paste in the report.

I started a thread bout this but it died my idea.....
right click>report
All essential details are ready filled (time,date,server,player name) all you need to do is give a reason,maybe a drop down list or a seperate window with a optional comments section

What do you think?

I think that the Free teleport for authentificator user is a good idea to limit the ability of gils sellers to use hacked accounts.
It will not fix the problem, but it's a good move.

now the bots will be able to send out more bots to farm for them via retainer ventures

Personally I haven't gotten a gilseller /tell /sh etc. Since Launch.

LOL SE might as well start selling Gil

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Originally Posted by Panthera13

Not only that, but it has even affected when I go into a dungeon and we're discussing how to defeat a specific boss.

Those dungeons are timed, not like we can say, "Oh hey, can we re-discuss everything again that took five minutes to do so? Why? I just got hammered with about 20+ /tell spams and it filled up my entire chat box so I can't see what you guys said, even with scrolling up."

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I'm going to be the jerk that points out that the gil sellers are the only ones keeping the shard markets under control right now. While not important to stab-happy players, anyone who enjoys crafting or tries to sell crafted items on the market more or less enjoys the benefit of having cheap shards to buy up, even if they 'try' to avoid gil-seller listings.

Yoshi has consistenly cut off sources of general shard production (1.0 allowed almost all mobs to drop shards). Leves generally consume more shards than they produce, and the only source is generally going grindy-grindy on harvest nodes (which is what RMT bots have done for ages)

So.. while official company 'policy' is to pursue and persecute RMT botters, in reality, the spam is just a downside to the fact that they pay SE a subscription fee (and enough accounts generally translates to a bribe), and the general player-market doesn't want shard prices to shoot up ten-to-hundred fold because all the shard suppliers that kept all crafted item prices "reasonable" vanished and SE neutered alternative production methods.

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Originally Posted by Zourin

I'm going to be the jerk that points out that the gil sellers are the only ones keeping the shard markets under control right now.

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Eliminate RMT, shard prices go up. Players rush out to farm shards since they're worth a lot more gil, shard prices go down.

Do a little more research before making another S**t stirring thread please.

People need to help SE by REPORTING the damn names not just blisting them and pretending they're gone.

By the way, OP, you must have been gone for a while because you can just right click the name to blist it. You don't need to type it in.

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Originally Posted by Panthera13

Not only that, but it has even affected when I go into a dungeon and we're discussing how to defeat a specific boss.

Those dungeons are timed, not like we can say, "Oh hey, can we re-discuss everything again that took five minutes to do so? Why? I just got hammered with about 20+ /tell spams and it filled up my entire chat box so I can't see what you guys said, even with scrolling up."

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You are definitely exaggerating here, because you can't receive /tells in an instanced dungeon or trial. So don't even.

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

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I'm going to be the jerk that points out that the gil sellers are the only ones keeping the shard markets under control right now.

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Eliminate RMT, shard prices go up. Players rush out to farm shards since they're worth a lot more gil, shard prices go down.

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Not to mention, with retainer ventures just around the corner (TOMORROW!!! :D ) we'll be able to send them out to get crystals for us.

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Originally Posted by Rex

Not to mention, with retainer ventures just around the corner (TOMORROW!!! :D ) we'll be able to send them out to get crystals for us.

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because I'm sure it'd be worth the time to send a retainer to go out for a few hours for a half-dozen fire shards.

Except that they are... there are just so many & they keep spawning.

Ah come on... it's not like we are paying a sub for this service.

*over shoulder* "Wait, I am what?"... "Seriously? $15?"

Yeah no excuse Square, get your act together.

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Originally Posted by Rex

People need to help SE by REPORTING the damn names not just blisting them and pretending they're gone.

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They make it such a hassle to report bots, especially if you're on the Ps3. Plus bots that you have reported still continue for farm for weeks which makes you not care anymore. I just decided to add everyone I know in to my ls so I can just uncheck /tell.

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Originally Posted by Rex

Do a little more research before making another S**t stirring thread please.

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The thread was created back in October. Do a little more research.

I have no idea why they don't implement a system like WoW. Players instantly report spam and if enough reports are made against an account (which happens in seconds) it loses it's ability to talk to anyone but friends and flags the account for investigation. The RMT spam in this game out of control.

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

The thread was created back in October. Do a little more research.

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Yea, someone did a necropost today. But honestly, things are even worse now than in October. I used to always report after blisting, but I now get so many a day I can only manage to report half, or even less. In another game I used to play (where gold sellers were practically nonexistent) you could report gold sellers with a click-on-Name option.

Why not turn off tells? That what I did and never have RMTs problems since.

They should do right-click on name report option, its weird that its not there like that. click on name a list comes up you can choose but the essential report option isnt there.


I too noticed this thread got necroed but RMT is still an issue so the thread deserves life once again.

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

The thread was created back in October. Do a little more research.

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Oh so it is! You're clever :D

My argument still stands though, as Yoshi addressed the rmt deal back at launch in August. So whether the post was now or in October, you still need to REPORT RMT......

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See what I did there :)


Good try though, repeating what I said like a smart guy.



Also, I wasn't the one to necro the thread. Whoever did....why. ,_,

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Originally Posted by Blaetansa

Yeah, I'm up to 88 on my blist

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Only 88? You have a long ways to go for your blacklist achievement.