I hate Titan

It's getting pretty pointless and the sad thing is i know that after i kill Titan i never actually have to do it again unless i want to. It's frustrating trying hard to avoid stuff and even if i was well out when the skill hits i still get hit by it then die. Then people just start bitching like "oh you blame lag but you're just bad" more than me die and say there is lag but i get picked out because i'm a healer and needed.

Kinda at a point where i wish i didn't bother to subscribe for more time thinking i could get a relic and do other stuff. Could have settled for beating the story and Ifrit,Garuda HM's. Garuda was still fun while giving some strain to healing. Titan is just either i heal the tank or dodge and if i dodge the tank is dead. If i heal the tank i take heavy damage or die outright because the game just decided all 4 plumes are around me. Wasted my money. Can't progress since what i need to finish is barely playable for me.

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Originally Posted by Shadowblind

I'm a tank such latency doesn't hurt me on the fights, but boy do I see it. Everyone will stop for 2-3 seconds then resume, usually all across the map from where they were. I see people teleport out of the way of attacks, or completely dodge an attack then die nearly 5 meters from where the attack actually hit.

So far lag has caused 90% of my team wipes, by estimation. 10% are bad players.

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if i were to give a breakdown:
15% of my wipes were due to lag
45% were unprepared/new players
37% were DF groups, i think that's self explanatory
3% were controller errors.

starting to lose patience.

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Originally Posted by YanDere

I don't know why people says "oh, rock bombs have lots of patterns, it's so difficult" while you can just watch at the spawn order to know when they'll explode XD
My problem is latency, I'm on PS3 and I almost always manage to aviod Landslide and Weight of the Land, except for sometimes when I run out of the AoE clearly before it disappears, I go on running for 2-3 seconds and then I get killed when I'm on the opposite side of the field -.-
I think I'll buy either a PC or a PS4.

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It is a connection problem I think

He's my favorite encounter in the game. Even though we have him "on farm" it's still a blast every time and still challenging without being overbearing. Heck even running FC-mates who are new to him is fun, even if it means we die a lot. It's just a really good fight, with awesome music to boot.

Once everyone in the group knows the fight it becomes a lot more manageable. It's dealing with pugs where people just can't dodge or don't know the mechanics that causes people most of their grief with this fight, I think. Or the "lag", but I honestly haven't experienced any issues with that.

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Originally Posted by Ninix

Once everyone in the group knows the fight it becomes a lot more manageable. It's dealing with pugs where people just can't dodge or don't know the mechanics that causes people most of their grief with this fight, I think. Or the "lag", but I honestly haven't experienced any issues with that.

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Trust me, lag is really an issue. Makes you need to react almost before an attack is launched by Titan. A real nightmare also because sometimes you evade an attack, and the next time, even if you react as fast as you did before, the attack gets you.
You cannot go: see the stomp or landlide area of effect > move out
You must: know stomp or landslide are about to come > move before you even see the area of effect

Today I will ready a macro with Sprint+Fists of Wind to be used before Plumes arrive. Hope that'll help me a bit =)

I was finally able to beat this $$##$^. I felt relieved knowing that I will never have to fight this A hole ever again. I found out that the standard camera and keyboard setting were a reason why I had a ton of problems during this fight. Lag was number 1. Once I changed the camera settings and the slide for A and D buttons, I was able to beat him with the team I was in. I did not have fun during this fight and looking back at it I find it the most appalling thing of this game.

It is honestly my favorite fight in this game. I understand the frustration of pugging it as the first time I killed it was with trying for days with pug groups. However with a full FC group it's a fun fight :p mechanically coil 1-4 doesn't compare.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

I was finally able to beat this $$##$^. I felt relieved knowing that I will never have to fight this A hole ever again. I found out that the standard camera and keyboard setting were a reason why I had a ton of problems during this fight. Lag was number 1. Once I changed the camera settings and the slide for A and D buttons, I was able to beat him with the team I was in. I did not have fun during this fight and looking back at it I find it the most appalling thing of this game.

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You know you'll likely have to do the EXTREME HM fights for one purpose or another, right?

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

You know you'll likely have to do the EXTREME HM fights for one purpose or another, right?

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I don't see a reason to do those battles. I wouldn't mind Ifrit or Garuda. It may be because I have not played other MMOs, but I will have my Relic and +1 tonight. Eventually I will get my AF2 gear. I see no point in stressing over pointless battles.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

I don't see a reason to do those battles. I wouldn't mind Ifrit or Garuda. It may be because I have not played other MMOs, but I will have my Relic and +1 tonight. Eventually I will get my AF2 gear. I see no point in stressing over pointless battles.

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And maybe EM primals will give weapons above ilv90, or they will be required for some quest, or to get in some other dungeon...
You know, SE is really good at finding excuses ;)

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Originally Posted by Subucnimorning

It is honestly my favorite fight in this game. I understand the frustration of pugging it as the first time I killed it was with trying for days with pug groups. However with a full FC group it's a fun fight :p mechanically coil 1-4 doesn't compare.

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Man i wish i could be one of these people. You know the FC who is good enough and nice enough to finish it for their members and help people learn the fight. I'm stuck failing with patronising jerks like "oh don't you know how easy this is? I do this for fun now lol"

At this point i'd screw pride and just pay gil for somebody to carry me i'm that sick of not being able to do anything but fail at this fight XD.

is it a thing now for people to queue for DF to get into Titan HM and then not participate or just say in the back and practice dodging landslide w/o even engaging? had this happen in 2 groups in a row now

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Originally Posted by YanDere

And maybe EM primals will give weapons above ilv90, or they will be required for some quest, or to get in some other dungeon...
You know, SE is really good at finding excuses ;)

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What is the point of Relic then? From my understanding Relic is suppose to be the strongest weapon for a class. I hate Titan and will always hate him. I could see it for vanity gear, but I couldn't care less for that kind of gear.

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Originally Posted by SzaaKarna

is it a thing now for people to queue for DF to get into Titan HM and then not participate or just say in the back and practice dodging landslide w/o even engaging? had this happen in 2 groups in a row now

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I do not know. I could never get on to a df for Titan.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

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HAHAHAHAAAAA, STRONGEST WEAPON!
Well, no offence but this really made me laugh XD
I think in just a few months the Relic will just be good weapon to beat Titan HM, but the game'll be full of other stronger weapons...
If you think about it the Allagan weapon is already stronger than the Relic+1, even if not too much stronger.
This is SE, welcome to Final Fantasy, where you have to destroy another dimension to get your chocobo underwater and get the strongest weapon, just to know that there is an even stronger weapon if you reach the final phase of the game under 12 hours of gameplay; where you spend more than a month to get a sword with 140 ATK, just to know that you can find a spear with 150 ATK in a coffer XD

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Originally Posted by YanDere

HAHAHAHAAAAA, STRONGEST WEAPON!

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It will always be the strongest weapon. Whenever new weapons outclass it, it will eventually have a way to upgrade it to +2, +3, or gain a new name entirely. This was/is the plan at launch. The relic weapons are always supposed to reign supreme at the end of the road. So you'll get new weapons, use those weapons for dungeons quests / etc until the new way to unlock a stronger version of the relic appears.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

It will always be the strongest weapon. Whenever new weapons outclass it, it will eventually have a way to upgrade it to +2, +3, or gain a new name entirely.

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And how will you upgrade relic+1 to relic+2? With a quest :)
Which means an excuse for Extreme Mode Primals :))

The biggest issue that I can foresee with EX Titan would be the lag! How the hell are they going to fix that when they plan on going even crazier than what Titan HM already does?

I love how these people are like "I have no problems with Titan, it's an amazing fight, so challenging." Clearly these people have good latency, some of them even admit to not experiencing any lag. I have the titan fight memorized, I know when the plumes (WoTL) are coming and I'm moving before it's even cast, and even then I still get hit with them. I'm also on 15/10 DSL, so my net is not the issue.

The really sad thing about this is the fact that as soon as someone gets hit with a plume it's automatically assumed their bad at dodging, when the majority of the time they get hit due to latency. I think the biggest issue I have with titan isn't titan, or the lag, it's the toxic players who assume anyone who dies on titan is a terrible player.

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Originally Posted by MrObject

I love how these people are like "I have no problems with Titan, it's an amazing fight, so challenging." Clearly these people have good latency, some of them even admit to not experiencing any lag...

The really sad thing about this is the fact that as soon as someone gets hit with a plume it's automatically assumed their bad at dodging, when the majority of the time they get hit due to latency. I think the biggest issue I have with titan isn't titan, or the lag, it's the toxic players who assume anyone who dies on titan is a terrible player.

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The other problem being the standard settings for the keyboard and camera. I hated when I was in a middle of a cast all of a sudden i see plumes and my camera just changes. Once I mentioned that someone told me about the settings for slide and camera.

The fight with Titan must be easier.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

It will always be the strongest weapon. Whenever new weapons outclass it, it will eventually have a way to upgrade it to +2, +3, or gain a new name entirely. This was/is the plan at launch. The relic weapons are always supposed to reign supreme at the end of the road. So you'll get new weapons, use those weapons for dungeons quests / etc until the new way to unlock a stronger version of the relic appears.

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Except for some Jobs, they don't. Scholar is one Example, Allagan book is superior to Omnilex +1.

I have fought Titan dozen times and beat him finally yesterday.
I was fucking happy, it was my 100000 try.
I think the radius/size of plumes could be a bit smaller.
Rest can stay as it is.

The Titan fight isn't that difficult, there are problems because it's a party fight.
In a party fight, only one player failing to dodge something makes all a lot harder, and most players know how to dodge, but here we are with latency. On PS3 WotL takes less time to cast than you need to run the radius of the circle.
And people saying you need full DL to beat it, maybe just because they are so freaking noobs that they really do need full DL or else they can't win because they get hit by every aoe in the fight...
I'm playing on PS3, so every time I go in any lv50 dungeon or trial, everyone starts saying I'm not good, I'll screw up things, they'll all be late, and everyone leaves.
And I'm also unlucky, because this happens 90% of the times, I'm lv50 since 3-4 weeks ago and I have only 2 DL pieces.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

I was finally able to beat this $$##$^. I felt relieved knowing that I will never have to fight this A hole ever again. I found out that the standard camera and keyboard setting were a reason why I had a ton of problems during this fight. Lag was number 1. Once I changed the camera settings and the slide for A and D buttons, I was able to beat him with the team I was in. I did not have fun during this fight and looking back at it I find it the most appalling thing of this game.

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Brace yourself: Titan Extreme will soon come.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

I was finally able to beat this $$##$^. I felt relieved knowing that I will never have to fight this A hole ever again. I found out that the standard camera and keyboard setting were a reason why I had a ton of problems during this fight. Lag was number 1. Once I changed the camera settings and the slide for A and D buttons, I was able to beat him with the team I was in. I did not have fun during this fight and looking back at it I find it the most appalling thing of this game.

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Try Yiazmat :3