The 4 tomestones

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Originally Posted by vRoad

Rings are unique and you're not expected to fill every piece of gear with AF2 stuff. Most classes really only need a couple AF2 pieces for their BIS setup (Legs and Helm for Bards for example).

I guess if you don't raid it would be an issue, but what do you really need the gear for anyway? To farm AK/Castrum faster?

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I'm a collector.... looks like I'll be picking up a Slaying and a Maiming then probably...

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Originally Posted by Shioban

Yes it has, name me anyone who has a full set of AF2 along with accessories and vanquished Turn 5 of the binding coil without a sweat on their brow?

I can see you're not on a Legacy server, i'm afraid aside from RMT's most people on the newer servers don't have as much money as the legacy servers, but aside from melding gear your gil won't buy you into end-game content that easily.

There is no way to dodge the Mytholgoy cap. The only people to exploit Turn 5 so far submitted a ticket to Square Enix explaining that they didn't complete it legitimately and made sure they didn't receive the 'World-First' claim due to a bug.

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Because, really, "denying one's self the 'World First' tag makes everything A-Ok! We'll just scoot along, continue the lore and continue exploring, getting ourselves ahead of everyone else...oh, and avertising that there's an exploit to get past this hard part (with screenshots which - for all intents and purposes, practically SPELLS OUT how to do it), so anyone else with 5 minutes to think about it can get their FC past turn 5, too."

*phew*

Was an awful lot of words to say: anybody that "turns themselves in for exploiting" isn't doing it as a, "White Hat" exploiter, especially when they post public screenshots of themselves doing it, and then brag about all the new lore and items they discovered from their exploits. But hey, this was covered in another thread already :)

I recall reading somewhere that the prices of current Myth items may be slightly lowered when even better stuff becomes available, I decided to hold onto my tomes just in case it happens.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

We'll just scoot along, continue the lore and continue exploring, getting ourselves ahead of everyone else...oh, and avertising that there's an exploit to get past this hard part (with screenshots which - for all intents and purposes, practically SPELLS OUT how to do it), so anyone else with 5 minutes to think about it can get their FC past turn 5, too."

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It was a flaw in the design of the fight. Why would you get so mad about it?

They owned up to the mistake that it wasn't their fault and that they didn't finish it properly, there's nothing the party could have done to prevent it.

It's only 'exploited' if it's done over and over again.

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Originally Posted by AridElf

I recall reading somewhere that the prices of current Myth items may be slightly lowered when even better stuff becomes available, I decided to hold onto my tomes just in case it happens.

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That won't be happening until December, it's best to spend them now.

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Originally Posted by AridElf

I recall reading somewhere that the prices of current Myth items may be slightly lowered when even better stuff becomes available, I decided to hold onto my tomes just in case it happens.

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that feels a bit extreme. It already takes 2 weeks to get either glove, head, or boots if you complete 300 cap per week and 3 weeks to get Body, Pants, or Relic +1.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

It was a flaw in the design of the fight. Why would you get so mad about it?

They owned up to the mistake that it wasn't their fault and that they didn't finish it properly, there's nothing the party could have done to prevent it.

It's only 'exploited' if it's done over and over again.



That won't be happening until December, it's best to spend them now.

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Because they executed the "flaw" purposely. They knew what they were doing, they knew it was bugged, and instead of resetting the fight, they continued to kill a mob that was standing there doing absolutely nothing after deliberately setting it up to do absolutely nothing. That is exploiting. Cheating.

I don't like how we can just buy unlimited supplies of end game legendary gear via vendors .-.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Honestly, ask yourself this one question: Has it REALLY stopped people from getting really far ahead within a matter of weeks? Has the lack of gil drops in dungeons REALLY stopped the world from getting insane amounts of gil, where RMT's are advertising 1 million for 6 USD? Has the limit on myth tomes REALLY stopped people from discovering ways to exploit their way through end-game content, and then publicly "denounce" their own use of said exploits as a means of merely notifying SE about the exploits?

NooooOOOOoooo.

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They never said it stopped other people... Just themselves.

If you read correctly.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Because they executed the "flaw" purposely. They knew what they were doing, they knew it was bugged, and instead of resetting the fight, they continued to kill a mob that was standing there doing absolutely nothing after deliberately setting it up to do absolutely nothing. That is exploiting. Cheating.

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So you'd be a good little soldier and reset the fight?

Pfft, unlikely.

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Originally Posted by Shioban

So you'd be a good little soldier and reset the fight?

Pfft, unlikely.

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No. I wouldn't deliberately set it up to exploit it in the first place. They knew they were doing it. It requires VERY specific behavior on the part of the people participating in the fight to get the boss into bug mode - behavior that anyone else would normally say, "Why on earth are you doing that? It makes no sense to do that when you are trying to kill ---- ohhhhh, I see. The boss cannot do anything now."

It doesn't just happen by accident and without anyone knowing it will happen, putting them in a position of having to choose whether to kill a bugged boss, or reset it. They set out with the sole purpose of bugging the boss in the first place, in order to kill it.