Rios, even though I agree with you wholeheartedly alot on how Warriors are a burden on healers due to insufficient self healing skills, would it make you feel better if I called you a nerd? Ya know, for the sake of the thread. Even though I believe you are right and we (meaning Warriors in general) need a good boost to our self healing skills.
Idea for Warriors
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09-28-2013, 04:10 AMMillieVanillie
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09-28-2013, 04:17 AMsilentwindfr
my two cents, maybe the warrior need to work with the scholar more, Succor, heal more on a warrior and if you critical it can give him a really nice boost of mitigation. (2 times the amount healed, that can be pretty high)
however i'm sure the warrior need some love that sure. -
09-28-2013, 05:25 AMHachikoAssuming you mean Adloquium, it is more effective on a Paladin.Quote:
Originally Posted by silentwindfr
Yes, the heal and shield will both be smaller, but the damage reduction will make up for that.
Boss does 200 DMG (160 to PLD)
Succor heals for for 100 and places a shield of 100
PLD gets 100 heals and 100 shield.
WAR gets 115 heals and 115 shield.
After hit #1
PLD at -160 Health
WAR at -200 Health
After Adloquium #1
PLD at -60 Health +100 Shield
WAR at -85 Health +115 Shield
After Hit #2
PLD at -120 Health
WAR at -170 Health
After Adloquium #2
PLD at -20 Health +100 Shield
WAR at -55 Health +115 Shield
After Hit #3
PLD at -80 health
WAR at -140 health.
After Adloquiun #3
PLD at Full Health (20 overheal) +100 Shield (assuming you get full shield from overheal)
WAR at -40 Health +115 Shield
The point of this exercise is to illustrate that all other things being held equal, Adloquium is more effective on a PLD than a WAR. -
09-28-2013, 05:30 AMRios-Drakoon
with my ideas, Paladin is still the Better MT for hard hitting bosses like Titan HM, but at least we are not such a burden for healer like we are now.
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09-28-2013, 05:59 AMHirosashi
I see no fault in your logic here it all makes sense, the only thing that would be bad is honestly the blood bath, the 3% max hp per hit needs to be a trait thing, as paladins can use bloodbath to so it needs to remain the way it is for us, less we would benefit far to much from it <- thats being 100% honest a 3% hp heal for use on attacks would be broken.
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09-28-2013, 06:24 AMRios-Drakoon
Paladin can have the 1% verion. xD
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09-28-2013, 06:28 AMJediman
"So at least, give Warrior the same Chance, give him the Selfheal what he Need, to to his Job and not to make Healer lifes harder."
I still don't get it why people are comparing paladin tank to warrior dps?
Was War a dps in Final fantasy XI ? if yes then you got your answer I would like to see the damage output for the war to increase. -
09-28-2013, 06:41 AMHachikoCan WAR use DPS armor or Queue as DPS in the Duty Finder?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jediman
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09-28-2013, 07:10 AMJedimanSo your trying to say it should be like a paladin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hachiko
We got more and more idiots trying to make war class a tank class now...
War are good for low level Duty Finders but sucks at high end ones its a fact. -
09-28-2013, 07:18 AMRios-DrakoonSo it seems you are a Paladinfanboy who think "The only Tank in the game should be Paladin"....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jediman
So, what about Whitemage and Scholar? both are HEALER right?
Warrior is a TANK CLASS, it has a TANK COMBO, and a TANK STANCE, Overpower our AoE has Increased enmity so ist a TANK ABILITIE
you see, WARRIOR IS A TANK. this is not FFXIV 1.0. This is FFXIV ARR
WAR is a Tank, but the gap between Paladin and Warrior is way to big.
And just info... Warrior can join Duty finder ONLY as Tank
so, learn it... WARRIOR IS A TANK