new players please do Guild hests

And please please please read the directions for the GuildHests. They exist to teach you how to handle certain situations. You don't just run in and zerg things. There's one where the goal is not to kill something but weaken it and sleep it. Just read the directions and make sure everyone else has, too.

I'm not familiar with terminology at all. Every game calls it something different.
Are these guild hests the missions the guild master sends you on or something else?

Guildhests are like mini dungeons, you get them the after you start leve quests and they are a good way to gain exp in a short amount of time. They really are vital to learn how to team instead of solo and this is really useful for all characters but more so for DD classes I would say as they seem to be firmly fixed into the "run in and nuke them" mindset which will not work in a group

My problem is they start out too easy and thus teach nothing. The first two amount to: Pop up 50 help items which you should ignore because your group is going to just pull all the mobs anyway. It's faster.

That means that people going into the level 15 instance, even if they did the level 10 'hests, are taught to zerg.

I usually recommend Guildheists to the new players, especially when I run Sastasha and I see they are struggling.

Some take heed to my advice, some, well, think it's insulting, but I tell them, if they don't break this zerg mentality, attack anything they please and expect the white mage to heal everybody constantly, they're in for a rough ride in the later dungeons.

If DDs do that when I'm healer I'll warn them the first time. At that point I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume they made a mistake or didn't know better. The second time I'll let them die. And I won't Raise them. They can HP. If they do it again, I won't heal them again, and will ask them to please stop or leave. Or I will. If they still do it again, I'll leave. I'll take the penalty. It's better than the headache.

I'm new at tanking...but I've discovered that the marauder works better if he doesnt't stand still. Did you know there's a sliding slash move? Just discovered it the other day.:)

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

If DDs do that when I'm healer I'll warn them the first time. At that point I'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume they made a mistake or didn't know better. The second time I'll let them die. And I won't Raise them. They can HP. If they do it again, I won't heal them again, and will ask them to please stop or leave. Or I will. If they still do it again, I'll leave. I'll take the penalty. It's better than the headache.

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That's pretty much my mentality when I'm healing. Had a DRG in Sastasha who would just run in and aggro everything but the kitchen sink. Did it twice in the first 5 minutes of the dungeon, told him to stop and let the tank pull and I'm not healing you if you keep that up. He continued with his merry ways, and I followed up on my word. I think he died a total of 20 times. Tried explaining the mechanics of dungeon parties, but I think it fell on deaf ears. We finished the dungeon, somehow, I think it's impossible to fail that dungeon. Before we parted ways I politely recommended Guildheist to him. Don't know if he got the message considering he ignored every bit of advice me and the other experienced player were trying to give.

Also, don't be afraid to speak up if you're unsure about something. Running through a dungeon for the first time? Speak up. Yes, there'll be those who will put you down, but there are people, like myself who'll assist as best they can. As long as people are willing to listen, I'm willing to help.

The first guildhest should have a warning like: If the DPS pulls the packs, mobs will do more damage. It's the one thats litterally harder than the others.

i like how you can't read the 50 help items that popup during the guildhest because everyone just goes in for the kill when it starts