Direction of FFXIV?

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I think that's always a good approach to have. But, in saying that, there are juat so many ways of implementing "a bunch of things to do" so it doesn't really add a lot of clarity to the discussion.

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True, it doesn't add much clarity but we don't have much to go on anyway. The only thing we truly have is Yoshi-P saying he wants to improve party play but doesn't want people losing game time by waiting on parties.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

True, it doesn't add much clarity but we don't have much to go on anyway. The only thing we truly have is Yoshi-P saying he wants to improve party play but doesn't want people losing game time by waiting on parties.

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I think when Tanaka was in charge it was more:

Massively multiplayer Online Role Playing Game

Now with Yoshi it is more:

Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I think when Tanaka was in charge it was more:

Massively multiplayer Online Role Playing Game

Now with Yoshi it is more:

Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game

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So which one do you think is better? Oh yeah you should enlarge and bold Role Playing for Yoshi, considering he's implementing class and rank gear, also he's also creating more distinctions between the classes.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

So which one do you think is better? Oh yeah you should enlarge and bold Role Playing for Yoshi, considering he's implementing class and rank gear, also he's also creating more distinctions between the classes.

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That's more like role-imposing than role-playing (classicaly speaking).

And I would never presume to know which is better. It's a value judgment anyway, not a factuality. People like different things. And different people will prefer one over the other.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

That's more like role-imposing than role-playing (classicaly speaking).

And I would never presume to know which is better. It's a value judgment anyway, not a factuality. People like different things. And different people will prefer one over the other.

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I just wanted to know which one you prefer. That's all, if you don't want to answer I understand. But you're right, to each their own.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

I just wanted to know which one you prefer. That's all, if you don't want to answer I understand. But you're right, to each their own.

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I personally prefer the first of the two options, but even so, such a concept can still be implemented in a way which I would disagree with. For example, FFXIV was rather bad upon release even though I liked the overall scope. I put up with the issues because I saw potential in the game when and if those issues could be resolved.

However, it's a different story nowadays. Now that the game seems directed toward Option B, I have to say I'm less excited about the future of the game, but I think I could still find enjoyment in it, maybe.

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Originally Posted by gifthorse

I personally prefer the first of the two options, but even so, such a concept can still be implemented in a way which I would disagree with. For example, FFXIV was rather bad upon release even though I liked the overall scope. I put up with the issues because I saw potential in the game when and if those issues could be resolved.

However, it's a different story nowadays. Now that the game seems directed toward Option B, I have to say I'm less excited about the future of the game, but I think I could still find enjoyment in it, maybe.

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Ah ok, now I see. Well, when the changes are over and things settle down, hopefully you'll find something new that will draw you in and keep you playing.

I think those new camps are for the new Hamlet Defence system that's coming. They said they were making new camps for it. I think it will be like Campaign from FFXI where we fight for the territory, when it's in our control we have our camp on it, when the beastmen have it then it will be there camp.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Ah ok, now I see. Well hopefully when the changes are over and things settle down, hopefully you'll find something new that will draw you in and keep you playing.

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Well it's not like anyone even knows where the fuck SE is taking FFXIV anyway. Im not even sure if THEY know. They are so confused by the mixed messages players are sending them. And the bad release has affected them, forced them to second-guess every single one of their ideas. Basically theyve just started pandering to the status quo, rather than trying to innovate. But that's besde the point anyway, and now im just rambling.

To get back on track, however, I should like to say that SE really needs to address threads like this one. If not for players, then at least for themselves.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I think those new camps are for the new Hamlet Defence system that's coming. They said they were making new camps for it. I think it will be like Campaign from FFXI where we fight for the territory, when it's in our control we have our camp on it, when the beastmen have it then it will be there camp.

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Are you sure? Those new camps seem a little small to have a major battle over. Maybe there will be multiple mini camps in an area and we will have to run back and forth between them to dispel the beastmen.