Inner Beast

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Originally Posted by Pexx

That is actually the best way to utilize Inner Beast.

If you know the damage is coming, you can properly set up yourself to utilize Inner Beast to it's fullest.

1) Heavy Swing > Maim > Storm's Eye
2) Bloodbath + Internal Release (PGL skill) + Berserk (+ strength potion)
3) ???
4) Inner Beast Profit!!!

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the big dmg only comes every 90sec.

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Originally Posted by hola

the big dmg only comes every 90sec.

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And, since you can't activate multiple off GCD abilities simultaneously, it'll actually take between 5 (if you don't attack and just click the CDs) and 10 seconds (if you activate the CDs in between attacks) to get all of those CDs active. If you're using Inner Beast as an emergency heal, you've got a comparatively tight window to stack up all of the CDs required to maximize its effectiveness.

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Originally Posted by Kitru

And, since you can't activate multiple off GCD abilities simultaneously, it'll actually take between 5 (if you don't attack and just click the CDs) and 10 seconds (if you activate the CDs in between attacks) to get all of those CDs active. If you're using Inner Beast as an emergency heal, you've got a comparatively tight window to stack up all of the CDs required to maximize its effectiveness.

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"Tight" as it might be, it's still predictable damage. You have more than enough time to set up your combos and CDs to prepare for the damage. As well, if you manage them right, your CDs should be back up by the next time the damage comes.

If you are questing dont use defiance unless you got multiple mobs or tanking a fate boss. Otherwise use it to offset huge bursts. Like right after a hard hitting attack. Like irritating double breaths and Garuda cleave. Especially during add phase on Garuda, it's the only wAy a war is viable.

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Originally Posted by Ahlen

I see no reason not to use it if infuriate is up. That's like...the whole point of infuriate.

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no infuriate are there to get 5 stacks form start on a boss fight :) not to regain it under a fight that is just good for us, if they made it to to regain the stacks after we used it they would make it a 20 sec cd and way OP

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Originally Posted by Longon

Just wanted to get some input from other warriors (and maybe healers), this isnt a warriors are shit or a pld vs warrior thread just looking for opinion.

Do you sit on your 5 stacks of wrath for the extra healing and use inner beast when needed, like after a big hit?

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Do you use it frequently to try keep yourself topped up and help the healers because the healing buff isnt all that great anyway?

What do you do? what do healers prefer? is it noticeable to you and your healers?

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I only use Inner Beast if it's needed or it's buffed with a DPS buff. My healers prefer it when I am holding Wrath V because it gives them more stability and predictability.

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Originally Posted by Ondesvin

no infuriate are there to get 5 stacks form start on a boss fight :) not to regain it under a fight that is just good for us, if they made it to to regain the stacks after we used it they would make it a 20 sec cd and way OP

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I've yet to see a single boss that does anything truly dangerous for the first 15-20 seconds of a fight. You've got more than enough time to build up to 5 Wrath stacks before you need to use Inner Beast>Infuriate. Burning Infuriate on the run in would be like burning a potion on the very first hit: it's really not appropriate because your not actually pressured at that point.

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Originally Posted by Ahlen

I see no reason not to use it if infuriate is up. That's like...the whole point of infuriate.

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This.

I have Infuriate macroed with Inner Beast. If it's off cooldown and I take a big hit, Inner Beast, activate.

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Originally Posted by Longon

Just wanted to get some input from other warriors (and maybe healers), this isnt a warriors are shit or a pld vs warrior thread just looking for opinion.

Do you sit on your 5 stacks of wrath for the extra healing and use inner beast when needed, like after a big hit?

Or

Do you use it frequently to try keep yourself topped up and help the healers because the healing buff isnt all that great anyway?

What do you do? what do healers prefer? is it noticeable to you and your healers?

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Best use of Inner Beast is to use it in your rotation but like this. Use Inner Beast for the big hits or when the healer needs to raise or heal someone else and then infuriate to regain stacks if available immediately afterwards. If not then use the +20% to healing skill and build the stack back up manually and there you go. You never actually lose the healing buff but still don't just hold onto a skill to never use it. Also other alternative rotations would be bloodbath and the +def % skill, or bloodbath and thrill of battle skill.

Most warriors tank incorrectly which is why people think they suck. While pld the healer burst heals because of the high mitigation and the warrior needs constant medium heals and should not freak out and burn all his/her skills for one "big hit." Meaning spread your CD's out and you will notice you are more survivable. Warrior is the thinking man's paladin. ~.^

The best way i have figured to use it is in this situation:

- Right after a high DMG hit, and ONLY if Infuriate is up

The reason for this is you want to keep the %healing buff from being infuriated always up. You really only want to use Inner Beast to help the healers mana costs some. Right after you use IB, you'll want to use Infuriate to get the buff back.