Dark Devices - Phase 1 Exploit

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Originally Posted by Badger

I care because exploits like this reduce the amount of people doing other things, like non-exploitative fates, this actual fate chain, and dungeons. The more people that abuse fates like these* the less people there are to do other things, which does impact the community as a whole.

And who is "you people?"

*I'm unaware of any other fates like this, but if there are any they need to be fixed.

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It's not an exploit, and fates dont need to be 'fixed.' It doesnt take people away from other fates, it's a fate that lasts 15 minutes, that generally starts every 1-2 hours. Just like any zone, people will run to it because it gives a lot of exp. When phase 1 is over, they'll quickly finish the rest of the chain. When the final phase is over, they'll resume doing exactly what they just did- more fates. They'll keep running back and forth to each fate until the next one starts, which will eventually be Dark Devices again. There is no exploit, no cheating, its no different to doing any other fate.

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Originally Posted by Badger

Dark Devices is a four stage L:49 fate that spawns in Northern Thanalan. The first phase is poorly designed, allowing players to farm infinitely spawning mobs while completely ignoring the target mobs that spawn near the mine entrance. What results is approximately 14:30 of people spamming AOE and doing nothing else in order to earn anywhere from 10,000 to 200,000 XP depending on the quality (and luck) of their group.

This is an XP and quality of life exploit on par with "speed runs" of certain L:50 instances and needs to be fixed ASAP.

This needs to be changed so that the mobs only spawn near the target mobs, or that the target mobs charge into the fight as soon as the non-target mobs are engaged. That way this fate can progress as intended. The other three phases of the fate are working as intended.

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OP please sit down and go away, its no different then the FATE's which require you to hand in items to the npc... you can farm those mobs for 15 minutes and hand in the particular item last minute... this is not an exploit just simply playing by the rules of the FATE

"It's not an exploit! We're just utilizing an oversight by the developers that doesn't involve hacking but breaks the spirit of the activity. It's totally different than Amdapor Speed runs!"

You're damn crazy if you think getting an extra 100k exp from a FATE that gives ~10k isn't an exploit. This is coming from someone who has been in a few DD parties.

So RMT bots level up this way I guess?

It's an oversight, so expect it to be fixed.

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Originally Posted by Badger

I care because exploits like this reduce the amount of people doing other things, like non-exploitative fates, this actual fate chain

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Ummmmm I've done some hours of fate grinding once and no, we still do all the other fates when we can run to them fast enough, after DD. That's why we call it a fate train. Sure if DD and another fate pop at the same time, more will do DD but there'll still be others doing the other ones if there are players closer to it.

At least on my server we still stick around for the rest of the chain.

About dungeons, I can't argue with that.

Just get a group to finish the fate. Problem resolved.

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Originally Posted by KojachLoT

leveling is not fast enough

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Sorry I though for a few seconds you were serious....oh wait. Dear lord...

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Originally Posted by neverendingxsin

Why do you care so much? its not an exploit at all. it would be no different than pulling an entire zone and AOEing them down.


Seriously you people will call ANYTHING that others find as a good way to gain XP as an exploit or something that needs fixing.

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Except they went out of their way to stop people from doing exactly that. Lolol at anyone who honestly thinks that FATE is working as intended. I don't fault you for wanting to keep the fast easy XP rolling in, but at least have some intellectual integrity. Also, fun read!