Fishing has too much RNG

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Originally Posted by Inosaska

The annoying thing is people who do the other disciples of land have a choice in what they get to choose so why is fishing the only one that is chance based?

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Speaking as a professional Trawlerman for last 25 odd years, I can tell you now that fishing IS chance based:)... sure there is an element of know how, but baits never have Lobster bait" printed on side of it for instance...Lots of different baits work for lots of different fish. Being that this is a Japanese game an the Japanese are master fisherman I would say thats your answer, because that is how fishing works.

I don't give a damn about real life fishing. I'm sick and tired of wasting my time out here trying to hook a damn full moon sardine at night HQ so I can get a silver shark for crafting, and hooking every damn thing else far more often no matter what bait I use. Spoon Worm -> Most often NOT sardine, Herring Ball -> Most often NOT sardine, Iron Gig -> Most often NOT sardine, Norther Krill - Most often NOT sardine, Krill cage feeder -> Almost ALWAYS Meritor goby. I can go out and catch Mahi Mahi more often than this damn thing. And when I do FINALLY after almost an hour get a full moon sardine HQ, it catches a damn blue octopus. After a whole day of fishing, after waking up from falling asleep on it, I got one damn silver shark. Its bad enough that damn near every other fish is completely useless, and every other useful fish is not nearly this bad (because they most of them are on the vendors)

Sorry this is not relaxing, this is stupid and frusterating. I literally fell asleep doing this. Fix fishing.

Perhaps if you took a sedative, stopped drinking thew coffee an relaxed a little then typed up a in depth an well worded post on the tech forum (leaving out rants anger demands an the usual forum crap). You would get alot farther than posting here.It is entirely possible that the loot database needs looking at. God knows that has happened enough times in MMO's.

This isn't tech support, this is fishing feedback. Posting in Tech support is actually the wrong place, and only serves to remove the post limitations on people trying to post in it. All of fishing is jacked up, not just the silver shark deal. Silver shark is just the worst since its needed for quite a few crafts, but its by far one of the rarest fish to catch due to having to depend on 3 variables of random: That the "Proper bait" will actually catch a fullmoon sardine at night, that the full moon sardine will be HQ, and that the HQ sardine will actually catch a silver shark, not a blue octopus.

There are a few other instances where your mooch fish will catch the wrong fish in other places too, but they all catch totally useless fish regardless. And the issue with bait at higher levels meant for higher level fish catching every damn non-mooch fish close to or below its level still remains.

Really...if we wanna make comparison wit real life fishing...if you go fishing everything with just a cane standing on the shore good luck. Sure in game we can't use boats and nets and sonar and everything. But this is a game so...

Maybe fishing just isn't something for you. If something in a game causes a negative type of stress for you, it's recommended that you avoid it. Unless the elation of finally getting what you wanted is enough to make it worth the while, you're better off ignoring it.

For this reason alone, I will never unlock Lulu's final weapon in FFX because of those bloody lightening towers.

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Originally Posted by Reika

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There are other places to catch Silver Sharks. Check here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...hark-Questions

Also, you might not have very good gear, or just have terrible luck. There is also the possibility that fishing is actually not working properly on your server. You should submit a report on the proper forum, and not in the middle of another thread. It is actually pretty easy to catch Silver Sharks. If it wasn't, then there wouldn't be a ton of them on the market at 300-500gil a piece.

Edit: As a side note. I tend to not use the right "tone" in my posts. To clarify, this post is just meant as an attempt to be helpful. I'm not trying to argue, or say that you're wrong.

297 gathering, 241 perception....... I'm pretty sure I'm good. Pretty above the requirement for HQ fullmoon sardine. And that thread doesn't have any locations that don't include a meritor goby or a full moon sardine, which I am fishing from. I've cought 2 whole silver shark the whole time i've been gunning for them, I know where they are. Finally, this is not just about Silver sharks. That was merely my current frustration at the time.

And the talk about "luck". Why should one get lucky in order to get the material to craft a great number of items, while the other 2 dol's do not require nearly as much luck, as far as their gathering success rate goes (which can be increased by skills, something fisher cant do). There shouldn't be a major shortage of a crafting mat because fishers aren't lucky enough to land the fish. Thats like putting every other gathered mat in the game at ~10% successful gather rate, give or take by adding the same RNG factors fisher has.

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Originally Posted by Reika

297 gathering, 241 perception.

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Yeah, I'm sure your stats are fine. I understand that it's frustrating. I was just trying to help with your issues of needing Silver Sharks for crafting. If you only catch one Silver Shark in a whole day of fishing, then there might actually be something wrong.

I won't argue about how things should be, or if luck should be involved. I merely chimed in to try to help.

And, my point will continue to stand. Fisher needs to be made similar to the other 2 dol, only its bait needs to be the aim. If I am aiming at a lvl24 fish, i need to select a level 25 or level 20 bait, only with the exception of fish that like certain baits only, and fish that need to be mooched. ALL others need to be on bait level -> fish level relationship. This RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG shit needs to quit.