Eventual Economic Disaster

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Originally Posted by Slickpig

Remove cost for teleporting, where does that money go anyway?

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Happy Uldah merchants, they funded the new aetherytes after the old ones broke in the Calamity and Atomos ate the rest, NPCs near them tell you about it.

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Originally Posted by indira

SE made crafting useless and materia is useless when it gives you zero for the stats actually need. with that said mats dont fly off the MW either thanks to crafting the way it is. wow you can craft relic weapons base and thats about it.

you get equipment for free from dungeons and quest, buy GC gear theres no need for buying & selling. SE really messed up right there. MMO where NPC's dominate the economy is fail no matter what you wanna believe.

in 1.0 you had a constant cash flow from day 1 because nothing was free or easy to get and crafting actually had the best gear for most the games life and that means mats flew off the MW, in 2.0 all that went out the window.

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Agreed.

What's odd is DoL/H classes are an FFXIV uniqueness and have the potential to be some of the most interesting content in the game.

Instead Square Enix treats them like the runt of the litter. Insane amount of wasted potential here.

I don't see how this has been brought up so many times and noone really mentioned the most important part.....

SE want the economy to drain a bit. Thats why they removed a decimal from 1.0 currency base. They want to even out the gil as much as they can (obv hoarders will be an anomaly) and then I assume they will bring in gil with a patch (increasing quests, dungeon drops, dailies, increase guildleves or a combination) which will easily allow them a soft reset on the economy without a total crash or wipe.

I agree earning money is hard, quests give little fates next to none, and next to the cost of travel repairs and teleports you lose much of it really really fast.

vendoring old items and mats give hardly anything at all.

I am struggling to keep mine over 10k atm.

Easy fix would be up the reward from fates, and vendoring goods.

The game is new so balancing will be something that happens over time.
But atm it is an issue.

I reached 50 last week..enjoyed the story and fate climb tremendously. Tried raising my gathering classes but by lvl 22 the mind numbing boredom just killed me, and that was using leves', same goes with crafting, got 17 alch and 20 gsm then crashed and burned. Next, tried several dungeons using the duty finder which guarantee's 1 or 2 members are noobs which = wipes, which = high repairs. Anyways I could see my gil steadily going down. So here I am at end game, don't like crafting, don't like gathering, and can't afford to dungeon or teleport. I took a couple days off to recharge but I'm at a standstill and wont be logging in until they either add dailies to supplement our gil or eliminate repair costs. Don't see either happening any time soon so I prolly won't be subbing. Ah well...still got my moneys worth with the betas etc.

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Originally Posted by slam9000

I reached 50 last week..enjoyed the story and fate climb tremendously. Tried raising my gathering classes but by lvl 22 the mind numbing boredom just killed me, and that was using leves', same goes with crafting, got 17 alch and 20 gsm then crashed and burned. Next, tried several dungeons using the duty finder which guarantee's 1 or 2 members are noobs which = wipes, which = high repairs. Anyways I could see my gil steadily going down. So here I am at end game, don't like crafting, don't like gathering, and can't afford to dungeon or teleport. I took a couple days off to recharge but I'm at a standstill and wont be logging in until they either add dailies to supplement our gil or eliminate repair costs. Don't see either happening any time soon so I prolly won't be subbing. Ah well...still got my moneys worth with the betas etc.

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The thing that hurts the most is. . . . Yoshi listens to this ppl. . . .

Yoshida mentioned on the beta forums about introducing daily quests, those could be the supply of gil.

Guys have faith that they will be adding boatloads of content. I'm not saying this in a negative way but do realize that they had to rush the development quite a bit. I think they did a fine job but at the same time they had to get a functioning game out the door as quick as possible. Now that the game is out, revenue will start flowing again and the devs will be able to breath and address all these issues and then some. The game will evolve and be great, at least for those with more than 30 days patience.

I don't understand where these threads keep coming from, I know I'm not exactly "endgame" yet but I do have about 150k just from doing quests. I accept the allagan rewards because I rarely need the items thanks to dungeon crawls, and I honestly make more and more every day. I do complete almost all of the side quests in every area the main storyline takes me. Did you start off with a lot like I am approaching endgame and then spend it all once you got there?

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

I have, economy was perfectly fine until gilsellers did their $1 per Million sale on xmas 2005.

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This one remembers this extremely well, knew quite a few who bought millions and banked it even after SE did the mass banning, that single event screwed the economy for years.