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    bajaben94's Avatar
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    Ullac Styrke
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 50

    Eventual Economic Disaster

    Several people in my LS and I were discussing the lack of ability to introduce new gil into the economy today. After you hit level 50 the opportunities you have to actually introduce any significant amount of gil into the world is more or less nil. Sure you can do levequests and whatnot for a whopping 3-400 gil each but when you only get a few of those a day it ultimately doesnt even counterbalance repairing your gear.

    between teleports, npc repairs, npc vendors, the 5% cut from the marketboard, airship costs, etc. gil is constantly being removed from the world environment without having any way to effectively replace it... eventually this is going to kill the economy.

    any thoughts?
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    my thoughts would be for you to use the search function instead of creating your own special snowflake thread
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    Taral Sunrise
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by bajaben94 View Post
    Several people in my LS and I were discussing the lack of ability to introduce new gil into the economy today. After you hit level 50 the opportunities you have to actually introduce any significant amount of gil into the world is more or less nil. Sure you can do levequests and whatnot for a whopping 3-400 gil each but when you only get a few of those a day it ultimately doesnt even counterbalance repairing your gear.

    between teleports, npc repairs, npc vendors, the 5% cut from the marketboard, airship costs, etc. gil is constantly being removed from the world environment without having any way to effectively replace it... eventually this is going to kill the economy.

    any thoughts?

    Just a quick question... Ever played FFXI?
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    Kanikou Escaflowne
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taral View Post
    Just a quick question... Ever played FFXI?
    I have, economy was perfectly fine until gilsellers did their $1 per Million sale on xmas 2005.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
    I have, economy was perfectly fine until gilsellers did their $1 per Million sale on xmas 2005.

    I remember that all to painfully...
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    Vanidin Pickles
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Taral View Post
    Just a quick question... Ever played FFXI?
    Quick question... what's your point? I played FFXI. It had plenty of ways to introduce new gil into the economy, and with less gil sinks (airships were fixed rate, teleports didn't remove gil from the economy to name a few differences) it worked fine, it was balanced quite well I thought. You could spend time fishing and actually make a decent profit. You could craft items simply to vendor and make profit worth your time, at least until gilsellers ruined it.

    FFXI is a different situation from XIV. It was designed with enough inputs to counterbalance the outputs. In FFXIV however the player base as a whole operates at a trade deficit... and we can't take out bonds from the empire to cover the difference.

    Oh yeah, to the OP: you should have added your comments to this thread instead of starting your own. The search function is your friend.
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    Last edited by Vanidin; 09-06-2013 at 07:56 AM. Reason: added a linky n stuff

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    Indira Cliodhna
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    SE made crafting useless and materia is useless when it gives you zero for the stats actually need. with that said mats dont fly off the MW either thanks to crafting the way it is. wow you can craft relic weapons base and thats about it.

    you get equipment for free from dungeons and quest, buy GC gear theres no need for buying & selling. SE really messed up right there. MMO where NPC's dominate the economy is fail no matter what you wanna believe.

    in 1.0 you had a constant cash flow from day 1 because nothing was free or easy to get and crafting actually had the best gear for most the games life and that means mats flew off the MW, in 2.0 all that went out the window.
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    Last edited by indira; 09-06-2013 at 08:33 AM.

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    Selyndria Evangeline
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    Hyperion
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    I have to agree but I'm hoping that since the game is a whopping 1.5 weeks old there is a bit of time for adjustments to be made and things to be added. Heck they are just now getting the servers stable enough to log in. Why does it feel like everyone wants to rush and beat everything before their free trial is over. At the pace everyone is rushing to end game the economy won't matter. Everyone will be sitting in town chatting about how they have nothing to do.
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    Sibian Dragonspire
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Remove cost for teleporting, where does that money go anyway? With an airship it goes to the attendant at least, makes some sense, but why charge me gill to use a learned ability.

    Also remove equipment repair, it's an annoyance, some call it realism, I call it lame.
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoint View Post
    my thoughts would be for you to use the search function instead of creating your own special snowflake thread
    ^ someones time of the month sadly
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