Enough is Enough

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

kaeden after my first year I played ffxi for 12-20 hours 7 days a weel I had a ton of time to play. I still couldn't do content because there wasn't enough people to do content with. Everyone had already full groups/Ls's.
there wasn't mean ls's with free spots. The 2 times I did join a LS both broke over petty gear fights.

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I. Don't. Care.

I'm not talking about FFXI. Additionally, your inability to find a party has nothing to do with how the content was tailored to players.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Well good thing I'm not talking about FFXI then...

When you played FFXI, it didn't have styles of content that favored people with less time to play. I'm talking about having content that:

1) Everyone has time for
2) Requires parties and time investment (tailored to people with more time)
3) Can be done with solo or with small parties (tailored to people with less time)

There is no reason we can't have all three in a game.

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and there is no reason for it be seperated eaither.
i'm just saying acess to content not rewards. Grow a back bone for ones and use your brain.
more ppl who can acess the same content = more chances to locate a group to run the content with.
this isn't saying content is soloable
or easy
or is handing out gear

and your have lame understanding to what casual ppl are really like.
i was a casual at first and I didn;t want to solo anything or do stuff in small groups. I never wanted stuff handed to me. Nor did I care how long it to.
I buy games to play.

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Originally Posted by Nuru

In my opinion, FFXI NM drops were a time sink that didn't need to be. Then again, the items they dropped were indeed useful for a long while. Ex. Okotes lvl 34-70 (+)

The longer spawning NMs should drop equipment for more long-term level range. Perhaps for a required class instead of optimal rank so that the effects last as long as Rank 50. This idea benefits the Hardcore gamers.

The NMs that have a short re-spawn period should drop items that will last no more than 5-7 levels and have an optimal rank instead of class requirement. This way, any class can equip this item and will benefit the Casual gamers.

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Let's leave the FFXI stuff out. There are already three threads talking about stupid NM drops and spawn rates... let's not bring that crap here. How about we stay on topic about having content that satisfies all players.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

I. Don't. Care.

I'm not talking about FFXI. Additionally, your inability to find a party has nothing to do with how the content was tailored to players.

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umm yes it is... ffxi content was too limiting. aka the way u want it.
less ppl could acess this content. those ppl formed and fill groups quickly
not every person who can acess this content could join a LS to do content with.

if more ppl can access it like it sjould be. this would never be an issue no one will quit for only getting to play a certain amount of the game and yes ppl duid quit ffxi because the content was to limiting.

why you think WoW is so big yet ffxi is going thru its second merger.

heck under the same 2 hrs i saw more content in WoW with ppl i met. I only quit cuz i didn't like the solo leveling

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Let's leave the FFXI stuff out. There are already three threads talking about stupid NM drops and spawn rates... let's not bring that crap here. How about we stay on topic about having content that satisfies all players.

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you want content to be just like ffxi was seperated...
i don't nor feel it should be.
rewards can be hard to get. as long as I can play a game that I bought i'm happy.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

and there is no reason for it be seperated eaither.

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Yes, there is. Because then players are free to choose what they would like to do without effecting other players negatively.

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i'm just saying acess to content not rewards. Grow a back bone for ones and use your brain.
more ppl who can acess the same content = more chances to locate a group to run the content with.
this isn't saying content is soloable
or easy
or is handing out gear

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I didn't say anything about rewards in my quote... so how about you lay off with the insults?
And if you say you want everything 100% accessible, then that would mean making everything solo-able by definition.

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and your have lame understanding to what casual ppl are really like.
i was a casual at first and I didn;t want to solo anything or do stuff in small groups. I never wanted stuff handed to me. Nor did I care how long it to.
I buy games to play.

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I'm getting really annoyed by you bringing up arguments completely unrelated to what I'm talking about. Maybe it's because English isn't your first language and you're misunderstanding... but I don't think that's it. You do this every time in every forum you post. You go off-topic, create straw men, and make connections where there aren't any. Just stop. Try to stay on topic.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

you want content to be just like ffxi was seperated...
i don't nor feel it should be.
rewards can be hard to get. as long as I can play a game that I bought i'm happy.

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LOL

Now who has the "lame understanding"?

If you bothered to read what I wrote NO, I do not want FFXI. FFXI has nothing to do with this. FFXI didn't have casual content until very, very recently. It was designed only for people who had a lot of time to play. This is exactly the reason why they wanted to make FFXIV more casual friendly. But that does not mean we have to make the game 100% tailored to casuals. Once again, they can make content that:

1) Everyone can do
2) Is tailored to people with more time
3) Is tailored to people with little time

Get off it with your assumptions, going off topic, and bringing up unrelated FFXI bull****.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Let's leave the FFXI stuff out. There are already three threads talking about stupid NM drops and spawn rates... let's not bring that crap here. How about we stay on topic about having content that satisfies all players.

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Duh? Minus my first paragraph and there is what you wanted.

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Originally Posted by Mack

Everyone does...you're only limited in whether you want to invest the time or not.

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not really some stuff like in ffxi had to much of a inner time sink during the event. that limited the players. I had plenty of time to play but not enough ppl to play with when it came to content.

Kilta nothing personal but If you can't keep the conversation constructive please don't bother posting in here, you are purposefully trying to start a flame war with people.

As for everyone else thanks for staying on topic, and keep the ideas coming.