Ending, plot discussion. Warning: Spoilers

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose

how come the prison at the end looked alot like dalamud did?

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This is all me, but I took it as that the ones to cage Bahamut in the first place were the 12. I'm not sure why were they unable to do it again if that was the case though.

At the end when he ported us the symbol of Althyk flashed for a moment, Im sure its because he is the god of space and time but Lou seems to have some sort of connection with the twelve as a whole and not just his patron Diety.

And I hope he didnt actually die, I would miss that old man.

Not sure if Dalamud was Bahamuts cage or if the dragon was Dalamud. But I def thought Bahamut when I saw it. That is after I got over the shock of seeing our cities go kaboom.

Beautiful cinematic, very well done. And now at least we know where the crystal tower comes from. I assume that its the piece of Dalamud that fell

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Originally Posted by Gokulo

It was confirmed that ARR happens 5 years in the future. There's also a possibility of a different dimension seeing as Atomos was involved plus you can't rebuild cities in 5 years after what bahamut did :p

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Thats a good point, WHAT happened with the whole atomos deal?

It was never explained. Why was he sucking the aethers dry?

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Originally Posted by Lavieh

Louis was either one of the Twelve or his staff was one of the twelve.

Definitely bahamut, no doubt about that.

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he could be the kids of the twelve just like the rest with the tattoo

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Originally Posted by Black_Rose

how come the prison at the end looked alot like dalamud did?

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That's what Dalamud is. Apparently Bahamut was sealed away before in the same fashion, but this time it didn't work.

I'd venture to guess that each era sees a weakening of Dalamud's prison seal, but he just got sealed away again each time.

I wonder about the other Archons because they used their own Aether to summon them.

Also, trying to dig up the vague Bahamut foreshadow from the Aurum Vale sidequest.

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Originally Posted by Majidah

This is all me, but I took it as that the ones to cage Bahamut in the first place were the 12. I'm not sure why were they unable to do it again if that was the case though.

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The Empire has been destroying primals for years - returning aether that they would have been consuming back into the system, which was then routed and fed to Dalamud by Van Darnus.

We've been feeding the thing aether this entire time, it's not surprising whatever was in it would be pretty powerful by the time we got to this point - I'd figured it was Odin. Feels stupid now - Van Darnus USED MEGAFLARE. RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME. #blindasabat

Crystal Tower however has been under Mor Dhona the entire time - it's the tomb of the Allag emperor.

i dont think we were ported to the future but maybe it kinda reminds me a little bit of ff11 wings of the goddess exp maybe we went to the past?????

Maybe the seal didn't work because the world's aether was drained by the avatars and the avatars were drained by dalamud?

Thus making the 12 weaker and Bahamut stronger?

Could the twelve Gods we've been praying to actually turn out to be Lesser Primals such as Ifrit, Garuda,Titan etc with Bahamut being the major Primal?