Ban Service Accounts with more than 1 FC house

FC plots, there are plenty of private plots yes but FC plots have become quite limited with the amount of single player fcs whose only purpose is to make gil through submarines.

The solo private houses isn't a problem but even on private plots there are leftovers of old FCs that are for gil farming from before certain wards became open to private ownership.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

There are tons of houses on Sophia. I don't quite understand your comments here. In my ward there are only 7 houses sold used to be more but people left. So exactly why is it you can't get a house?

Of all places Materia is a utopia for anyone who wants a house.

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I think you are confusing regular housing with FC housing. All of the FC wards are botted, hoarded, or taken on Materia for every world. Every cycle about 1 or 2 come up on Sophia for example.

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Originally Posted by neia

I'll address each of your points here:



Regardless of if we want it to be. Housing is not currently infinite. I'm not advocating for outright bans. However SE needs to recognize that the rules are badly designed, not enforced, and being deliberately exploited at scale by players. When a single service account controls 3, 5, 10, 20 FC houses via Shell FCs and transfers, it stops being normal, and is systemic abuse of a loophole. Simply stating that "the game allows it" doesn't make it fair, it just means that the rules are being broken.


In a perfect world this would be optimal. However that requires a lot more resources than simply enforcing the current rules would.

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I mean, yeah, it's not infinite, but there are far better solutions than banning service accounts, which is what your request was. The better approach if you went that route would simply give a plot they wish to keep, and then auto relinquish those inherited or obtained via new leadership. Banning service accounts is very extreme, for something that the game actually permits through normal behavior.

For a game that intends to go another decade, as they have specified several times, then they should be pouring a hell of a lot more resourcing than just 'enforcing current rules', especially with a system as broken as housing.

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Originally Posted by neia

And have multiple service accounts like that guy

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Unfortunately revenue and daily login numbers will plummet, if gms starts to hunt rmt sellers/autoduty botters etc.

Remember: selling gil/autoduty is ok for square enix, using emote more than once in limsa = 1 month ban for chat spam.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

I mean, yeah, it's not infinite, but there are far better solutions than banning service accounts, which is what your request was. The better approach if you went that route would simply give a plot they wish to keep, and then auto relinquish those inherited or obtained via new leadership. Banning service accounts is very extreme, for something that the game actually permits through normal behavior.

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Forced selection of one plot and automatic relinquishment for the rest of the plots after a short grace period is probably exactly what everyone would consider a sane outcome. The title "Ban Service Accounts" is mostly to bring attention to the core issue, the punishment is not up to me, a random player. When your talking about industrial gil farming at scale of 20+ FC's, sure, ban those service accounts, it's pretty blatant.

Everybody agrees that SE should invest more into fixing housing long term. But there's still a lot they could do in the short terrm. Saying that "they should rework it completely!" doesn't do anything to fix the FCs that are locked out, right now, due to hoarding by singular players.

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Originally Posted by neia

Everybody agrees that SE should invest more into fixing housing long term. But there's still a lot they could do in the short terrm. Saying that "they should rework it completely!" doesn't do anything to fix the FCs that are locked out, right now, due to hoarding by singular players.

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Yeah, they have to fix the system/punish the ones abusing it first because putting up more FC-enabled wards will just have them being auto-bought out by said gil farmers since they're the ones with all the money and an army of alts for bidding.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

I don't really think this is fair. Ultimately, you can't ban people for acting within the confines of what the game actually permits in terms of just housing alone

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Correct. But the rules can be changed. Restrict all service accounts to owning one FC per world. Don't grandfather in anyone; give them 90 days' warning to vacate all but one house, and if they don't, the one they get to keep is randomly chosen.

I'll be honest, I don't even see a valid reason why one person needs more than one FC per service account period. It's not like of running multiple FC's on multiple characters, is how the game is played in a normal way at all. I'm of the firm belief it should be a strict one FC per service account. Period. There's no legitimate reason to have more than one FC on your account.

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Originally Posted by neia

There's no legitimate reason to have more than one FC on your account.

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I have several leveled up characters on several servers, across 3 dcs. I like my fcs as private crews of few friends. I have bought my houses fairly, so I kinda disagree with this statenent

A service account can only have 8 FC houses per world. And 7 of those they cannot buy themselves. What you are seeing is someone using multiple accounts and creating FCs with the same tag and name on the houses.