Prog skipping/lying is going wild this tier.

If anything, the party finder tool needs to work such that people apply then the leader can choose who to invite. Would give party leaders more control over their party.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

E1S I was ready to clear on the second pull (it was that easy), but it took me 4 weeks because nobody could do the first phase right. In the end, I subbed in a static that forgot to put [Duty Complete] and cleared the whole fight despite not having even seen most of it, because I knew I could do it.

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You pretty much described a good chunk of PF and why they prog lie. It's good that it ended well for you, but yeah. It's one of the main contributors.

Dunno what's more cringe, that that guy actually wants a 'name-shaming list' or that he thinks SE or any reputable company would ever do something like that. Anyway, go outside man, there's a sky, trees, grass, etc.

Even if you clear in a random group, who says that the 7 other guys didn't cheat with 50 plugins and auto-rotations? Or do your morals only work in one direction?

Not only this tier. It has always happened. The only way to prevent this is making good use of the stalking tool you've mentioned, which most people in NA cannot do, as they would rather recruit an inconsistent player with bad damage at the prog point, than a good player 1 mechanic behind.

Imagine raiding in FFXIV lol.

create a CWLS with people that did well and try to recruit from that pool

Have you been stuck in M6S for almost two weeks? LMAAAOOOOO

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Originally Posted by Kandraxx

Dunno what's more cringe, that that guy actually wants a 'name-shaming list' or that he thinks SE or any reputable company would ever do something like that. Anyway, go outside man, there's a sky, trees, grass, etc.

Even if you clear in a random group, who says that the 7 other guys didn't cheat with 50 plugins and auto-rotations? Or do your morals only work in one direction?

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I never said I want SE to give us a list like this. I want SE to not go against players creating this kind of list.
But please tell me whats more cringe? Someone frequently joining PUG's far below their progpoint, wasting 7 other peoples time while being protected by multiple layers of ToS OR a community created list that reduces scummy behaviour like this.

I dont really care if someone in the party I'm in uses any kind of Third-Party. It doesnt directly interfere with my own gameplay. A person single handedly wiping the raid does. Its really not the same.

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Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi

https://i.imgur.com/8XfMFhf.png

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You are using a third-party cheat tool (parser) to bully people and advocate others to do the same. This is a violation of the FFXIV User Agreement. I am giving you one chance to correct this mistake in case you forgot the rules. Please delete your post within 24 hours or I will report your account to Square Enix.

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

You pretty much described a good chunk of PF and why they prog lie. It's good that it ended well for you, but yeah. It's one of the main contributors.

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Yes, although the difference was that when I did it, I was extremely confident and that confidence was proven by 1 shotting it with the static. I wouldn't do it if I wasn't super confident.

The issue with prog liars is when they join a prog far beyond what they can get to consistently, and aren't confident in their ability to get to that prog point consistently, but want to benefit from the other players being consistent.