YoshyP saved FF 14 but also killing it.

Idk bro hes still carrying, but hes not performing well like he used too. Maybe with the SE changes he might be back.

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Originally Posted by Zarkovitch

Idk bro hes still carrying, but hes not performing well like he used too. Maybe with the SE changes he might be back.

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I really hope so... I want FF 14 to be the best mmo in the world but atm it's far from it :(

I honestly wouldn't mind a new FF mmo at this point.

I look back on ff14 now that a lot of the older content has been ruined by the levelling system, too many fundamental changes I doubt they will go back on and the excuse of "well its outdated what do you expect?" ect.

Not to say I'm rooting against ff14 I can see a possible future where it's not just doing well but better then it has before but at the same time a fresh start sounds nice... though the grass is always greener on the other side so maybe that wouldn't even work out.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

I honestly wouldn't mind a new FF mmo at this point.

I look back on ff14 now that a lot of the older content has been ruined by the levelling system, too many fundamental changes I doubt they will go back on and the excuse of "well its outdated what do you expect?" ect.

Not to say I'm rooting against ff14 I can see a possible future where it's not just doing well but better then it has before but at the same time a fresh start sounds nice... though the grass is always greener on the other side so maybe that wouldn't even work out.

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Yeah I think it's time for a new mmo because I doubt we gonna see any major changes in future expansions

I just don't think the game has the resources pouring into it that it needs to stay truly modern and fresh, honestly. It had a pretty good run (over a decade!) before we got to this point. It definitely has some years left in it, but it almost certainly will mostly be more of the same. It is what it is. On one hand, it's somewhat of a bummer, because it feels like the end of an era, but on the other hand, I really can't reasonably expect a single game to meet all my expectations in perpetuity.

players dont like anyone or anything that has passion behind it, players ARE TO BLAME honestly not the devs at this point, players want things to be this 1 2 3 set pattern the story being predicatable BECAUSE THE PLAYERS refuse to let a scion die, nothing that happans to the scions even matters due to players...


and honestly, any passion any thought rather it comes from devs or players or anyone with a BRAIN OF THEIR OWN that doesn't fit into their tiny box gets shut down, dismissed, and called w/e bs if it doesn't sit in the same old same old box players don't want it which ties a chain around the devs necks to the point they can't do anything because players are to retarded to think for them self and move out the same old same old box. They don't want passion or creativity or uniqueness they want everything in the little box of there to always be the same forever and ever and if you don't fit in that box it doesn't get added/done or if ur a player that doesn't they purposely try to set you off.. so honestly at this point I say well its what the majority of players deserve to happen to them.


The only fault of the devs and SE honestly in cash shop and not having the balls/stomach to do things that will piss of players like perm killing y'shtola

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Originally Posted by Daughterofdeath

players dont like anyone or anything that has passion behind it, players ARE TO BLAME honestly not the devs at this point, players want things to be this 1 2 3 set pattern the story being predicatable BECAUSE THE PLAYERS refuse to let a scion die, nothing that happans to the scions even matters due to players...


and honestly, any passion any thought rather it comes from devs or players or anyone with a BRAIN OF THEIR OWN that doesn't fit into their tiny box gets shut down, dismissed, and called w/e bs if it doesn't sit in the same old same old box players don't want it which ties a chain around the devs necks to the point they can't do anything because players are to retarded to think for them self and move out the same old same old box. They don't want passion or creativity or uniqueness they want everything in the little box of there to always be the same forever and ever and if you don't fit in that box it doesn't get added/done or if ur a player that doesn't they purposely try to set you off.. so honestly at this point I say well its what the majority of players deserve to happen to them.


The only fault of the devs and SE honestly in cash shop and not having the balls/stomach to do things that will piss of players like perm killing y'shtola

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I don’t know a single person in HW who thought retconning the bloody banquet was a good idea nor anyone in ShB who thought that another fakeout death for y’shtola to show off emet’s power was good writing

Like does anyone still want y’shtola still in the story actively at this point. If you wanna goon over dommy mommy then she can be shoved into matoya’s cave

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I don’t know a single person in HW who thought retconning the bloody banquet was a good idea nor anyone in ShB who thought that another fakeout death for y’shtola to show off emet’s power was good writing

Like does anyone still want y’shtola still in the story actively at this point. If you wanna goon over dommy mommy then she can be shoved into matoya’s cave

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HW/arr got a pass for 2 reasons

1 the little lalafell got killed at the end of HW and arr we lost minfilla for good (well mostly for good) and in stormblood we got rid of lyse those 3 were back when SE had the guts to get rid of scions lol I mean IN ARR we technically lost 2 scions.



The characters we got left are really only be used for fan service the same reason animes always have that beach scene lol


I mean honestly the best thing SE Could do for players at this point is be done with the source for a little while let us explore more of the first and other planet/worlds where we only interact with new npcs


I mean Raubans lost arm has more value then the scions anymore because it left an impact forever


at this point 1 of 2 things need to happan We accidentaly create the rejoining of all the reflections or 2 the source is written out of the story for good

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I don’t know a single person in HW who thought retconning the bloody banquet was a good idea nor anyone in ShB who thought that another fakeout death for y’shtola to show off emet’s power was good writing

Like does anyone still want y’shtola still in the story actively at this point. If you wanna goon over dommy mommy then she can be shoved into matoya’s cave

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2.55 is peak MSQ, unironically.

3.0-3.3 was good but 100% marred by the retcon.

5.0-5.3 was good but only if you ignore the butchering of the worldbuilding and the start of the babyfication of the story.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I don’t know a single person in HW who thought retconning the bloody banquet was a good idea nor anyone in ShB who thought that another fakeout death for y’shtola to show off emet’s power was good writing

Like does anyone still want y’shtola still in the story actively at this point. If you wanna goon over dommy mommy then she can be shoved into matoya’s cave

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Yes, partly because she's the character most likely to drive intra-Scion strife.