Sub-Dividing Patches & Patch Schedule

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's not that I ignore it. I literally don't have a house, so it doesn't even cross my mind. Lots of people do not have a house. Your problem is kinda limited to people who do like I assume you do.

While true, that fee is primarily for the "new game" / MSQ aspect which is why I compared it to buying a new game instead.

But the business models and their problems are mostly similar other than that. You subscribe for the content you want on the month it releases, binge watch / consume it, then unsubscribe. That's pretty much the business model they're both using.

Is the business model good? That's up for debate. Many people will similarly say "Netflix has lackluster content, you're just subscribing for the 1 good show" - a familiar argument made about FFXIV.

Both have a lot of other content/shows too, but it's stuff the people complaining don't care for, therefore they don't count it.

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“Limited to people who do”

You know there are 780,000 plots in the game right? If we say ~~~80% are occupied by a unique player who doesn’t want to lose them that’s half the games current playerbase based on the lucky brancho population crash who doesn’t want to lose them. That isn’t an insignificant number just because it doesn’t apply to you

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

But the business models and their problems are mostly similar other than that. You subscribe for the content you want on the month it releases, binge watch / consume it, then unsubscribe. That's pretty much the business model they're both using.

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Naah Fam can't agree with that, really. Their spiel of "you can unsubscribe" sounds more along the lines of "if you take a break, getting back to where things are is pretty easy", not a "we plan for you to cancel your subscription with only playing 1-2 months per year."
In a live service game, one with a subscription cost, any good business wants to keep your subscription rolling. Same with FFXIV. A constant huge shift in player numbers is poison for infrastructure planning and financial security.

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Originally Posted by ovIm

In a live service game, one with a subscription cost, any good business wants to keep your subscription rolling. Same with FFXIV. A constant huge shift in player numbers is poison for infrastructure planning and financial security.

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I'm sure you've seen a Yoshi-P quote encouraging people to take breaks and play other games. So there's no point in me finding one for you. Clearly he doesn't agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I'm sure you've seen a Yoshi-P quote encouraging people to take breaks and play other games. So there's no point in me finding one for you. Clearly he doesn't agree with you.

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Taking a break =!= cancelling your subscription, its not a difficult concept to grasp. You can take a break and still keep paying, you can take breaks for shorter than 4 weeks where cancelling your sub isn't even an option. It is said in such a way to seem benevolent.

The Live Letters preview everything that will be added in the given patch cycle. The next one will outline what is coming directly in 7.2, what will be in 7.25, etc.

This is their design for releasing content and has always been their design for releasing content. You seem to be fairly new by your join date. If you're comparing this game to other MMOs, don't. While it has some inspirations, it doesn't follow all the trends of other MMOs. Instead, do a little research on the game first and see what individual design it follows.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I'm sure you've seen a Yoshi-P quote encouraging people to take breaks and play other games. So there's no point in me finding one for you. Clearly he doesn't agree with you.

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Actions speak louder than words.

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Originally Posted by NarhiFaunlha

If its 5 months between patches, and you're paying $15 a month, that's $75. That's almost double the price of the expansion itself. Are you getting 1.5 times the content during that period? Probably not. That's the issue I have. Expansions are being sold as a: "This is what's included!" Except it isn't included; its promised. Its coming. Its a lack of transparency of when its coming. This is especially important as- over the years- the size of each patch has been reduced. Less patch dungeons. Less MSQ. Less optional/extra content in the game and yet a longer period between the patches themselves.

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If you find there's not enough in the game to retain your interest for 5 months between patches, you should unsubscribe during that period. Pay when you want to play, don't pay when you don't play.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

If you find there's not enough in the game to retain your interest for 5 months between patches, you should unsubscribe during that period. Pay when you want to play, don't pay when you don't play.

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You did not read this thread at all did you?
Just unsubbing because yoshi p says its ok to play another game in downtime doesn't make sense for anyone because people have houses and the lottery system for it sucks more than clicking the sign before it

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Originally Posted by LilaIronman

You did not read this thread at all did you?
Just unsubbing because yoshi p says its ok to play another game in downtime doesn't make sense for anyone because people have houses and the lottery system for it sucks more than clicking the sign before it

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Did you not read my post? I said if you are not playing the game, unsub. Not because Yoshi-P says so but because you are a thinking human being with free will. If you choose to pay your subscription fee exclusively to keep your digital house alive, that's a decision you have actively made. If you're unhappy with your own decision, that's on you.

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Originally Posted by Exmo

Did you not read my post? I said if you are not playing the game, unsub. Not because Yoshi-P says so but because you are a thinking human being with free will. If you choose to pay your subscription fee exclusively to keep your digital house alive, that's a decision you have actively made. If you're unhappy with your own decision, that's on you.

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Actually nope, SE made that decision with the artificial scarcity in order to force people to stay subbed for their houses (except if they want to spend their entire time bidding for at the very least a few months), but thankfully people like you will defend it. Go you !