What to manage as a tank?

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Originally Posted by Tunda

Nope.. there is something called enrage in savage

If healer die all party die they have a clear thing to manage

But tanks I don't see any thing to manage

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Go ahead, play savage without managing your mitigation or DPS and we'll see the result.
DPS from everyone is very important in savage/ultimate, if you experimented it, you would be aware of it.
Tank DPS is roughly 70~80% of a melee DPS, it's extremely valuable. If you can clear with a tank that doesn't DPS it means your group is already overgeared.

You should also be aware that in savage, damage taken from busters and raid wide are above player HP, there's many of them you absolutely can't survive without tank mitigation.

Be sure that if tank had "nothing to manage" you would see 1 tank and 5 DPS or 6 DPS in savage content.

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Originally Posted by Tunda

If dps has to manage rotation
And healer has to manage party health

What to manage as a tank?

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Party mit and a mit rotation. I know 90% don't do savage or ultimates on the forums but if you don't get a mit plan and even consider your timings of mit in between busters if you can to help healers, you end up dead more than dps.

sadly using savage and ultimate as exemple isn't a good way of doing thing at all but hey it's how thing how but I do agree that aggro management should be added back

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Tanks role is to keep agro,

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There is no aggro management in XIV anymore. If if happens by accident it gets patched out.

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Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

sadly using savage and ultimate as exemple isn't a good way of doing thing at all but hey it's how thing how but I do agree that aggro management should be added back

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IMO tanks should have something to manage.. I don't have idea now but there is something missing

I play tank in savage mainly warrior because it is the best tank in the game

I really don't have to manage anything just press any mitigation when tank buster and if I was nice I do party mitigation

That's it

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

There is no aggro management in XIV anymore. If if happens by accident it gets patched out.

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I don't think aggro management should be back

It is something for the past we dint need it

I may have an idea of adding rage management which is different in execution

It is like doing mini games with the boss to have extra damage or reduce boss defence or knockout boss

It is like how thancred weaken the lion from ShB trailer

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Originally Posted by Tunda

I don't think aggro management should be back

It is something for the past we dint need it

I may have an idea of adding rage management which is different in execution

It is like doing mini games with the boss to have extra damage or reduce boss defence or knockout boss

It is like how thancred weaken the lion from ShB trailer

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A bit like the defiance bar in GW2? (maybe i misunderstood)

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Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

sadly using savage and ultimate as exemple isn't a good way of doing thing at all but hey it's how thing how but I do agree that aggro management should be added back

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You can go in extreme and not press your buttons to see the result.
Though you're quite likely to be carried by your team but the same can happen for DPS and Healer if they don't do their role.

You can't take dungeons or normal mode as example as you can clear them only using 1 button for each player.

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Originally Posted by Tunda

IMO tanks should have something to manage.. I don't have idea now but there is something missing

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I believe 3 posts already perfectly answered your question.

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Originally Posted by Kaixern

A bit like the defiance bar in GW2? (maybe i misunderstood)

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I do not play GW2 so I don't know

Tank has to manage both on easy mode.
Tank has party responsibilities, in keeping itself alive by using their own cooldowns, being able to clutch save on people and provide ride wide mitigations/healing.
They also have a DPS rotation, which is a easy mode version of a DPS rotation.


Personally I wish they leaned into both a bit more, tanks should feel like more dynamic supportive DPS, Who hold aggro Imo, as I doubt we will get "aggro management & Stances" I think having a fun rotation and ways to support the group is the best direction for tanks.