Dawntrail normal content is NOT hard. Stop whining

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Originally Posted by Jaxtaro

Actually, no, because it isn't a binary choice. There isn't "one group gets content and the other can, unfortunately, suck it". There are multiple ways within a software environment to create options for most non-outliers.

There isn't a business case for false dilemmas.

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Only in this case, it's a binary case because we can either have difficulty progression throughout the game or we can not. Anything else would be asking the developers to design the game twice, and that's not even remotely a fair ask. Let them build the game the way that they want and just play it or don't. I chose to play it through all the abysmal design decisions of Shadowbringers and Endwalkers. I could have quit at any time I wanted, and actually did several times. The design is good again, and a small vocal minority should not screw that up because the game no longer caters to no-effort (not even low-effort, straight up non-effort) players.

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Originally Posted by Jaxtaro

Except that a substantial number of "individuals" have chimed in saying that a substantial amount of the content which they paid for is designed for someone else. That isn't the way FFXIV was made or marketed.

I still fail to understand why "opt in to hard" is such a difficult concept to grasp.

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This is a argument that won't work in your favor. I don't care about island sanctuary, having relics be a mindless grind, housing, and many other things. So I'm also paying for content made for someone else. It's an MMO, not everything should be tailor made for you. What do you want them to do? Pay extra if you want access to the housing system, 5 more bucks if you want to raid? What a load of nonsense!

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Originally Posted by yoshinoharu

Only in this case, it's a binary case because we can either have difficulty progression throughout the game or we can not. Anything else would be asking the developers to design the game twice, and that's not even remotely a fair ask. Let them build the game the way that they want and just play it or don't. I chose to play it through all the abysmal design decisions of Shadowbringers and Endwalkers. I could have quit at any time I wanted, and actually did several times. The design is good again, and a small vocal minority should not screw that up because the game no longer caters to no-effort (not even low-effort, straight up non-effort) players.

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I can kind of agree with your first point, that as it currently stands, it is a binary, and if that were the only choice, outside of Stayborough Deadwalk's first boss, which needs tuning regardless, then I would prefer it stay as is.

I simply don't buy into the idea that those are the only options, and that there are ways to cover most poples' needs without too much coding trauma, and if that'svan option, it's a better one.

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Originally Posted by Vhoxz

This is a argument that won't work in your favor. I don't care about island sanctuary, having relics be a mindless grind, housing, and many other things. So I'm also paying for content made for someone else. It's an MMO, not everything should be tailor made for you. What do you want them to do? Pay extra if you want access to the housing system, 5 more bucks if you want to raid? What a load of nonsense!

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So that is actually an even weaker rebuttal than you think the argument is. If some side activity doesn't appeal to you and you choose to not partake, and there is plenty of that, then that isn't the equivalent of the game being stressful enough in MSQ and daily roulette content, which are the main thrust of the game that people forego them.

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Originally Posted by Jaxtaro

Except that a substantial number of "individuals" have chimed in saying that a substantial amount of the content which they paid for is designed for someone else. That isn't the way FFXIV was made or marketed.

I still fail to understand why "opt in to hard" is such a difficult concept to grasp.

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You might have a point if any of the new content was harder than anything from Heavensward, Stormblood or even Shadowbringers.

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Originally Posted by JadeCurtiss

You might have a point if any of the new content was harder than anything from Heavensward, Stormblood or even Shadowbringers.

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Funny, if it wasn't, there wouldn't be 37,000 posts thanking SE for "finally making it a challenge". Try harder, that argument flopped harder than betamax

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Originally Posted by Jaxtaro

Except that a substantial number of "individuals" have chimed in saying that a substantial amount of the content which they paid for is designed for someone else.

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Cool. That's also how midcore and hardcore players feel. Unless you want every single piece of content to have Normal/Hard/Savage difficulty, you will never make everyone happy.

The thing is, new/casual/bad players can either get carried or get better in most cases. Skilled players can't magically lose their skill so that they feel challenged in extremely easy fights, though.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

Cool. That's also how midcore and hardcore players feel. Unless you want every single piece of content to have Normal/Hard/Savage difficulty, you will never make everyone happy.

The thing is, new/casual/bad players can either get carried or get better in most cases. Skilled players can't magically lose their skill so that they feel challenged in extremely easy fights, though.

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Every piece of content doesn't need to have 3 difficulty levels, but 2 for MSQ dungeons and roulettes would work quite well. I agree that midcore and hardcore players shouldn,'t have been neglected, but the solution isn't to neglect someone else.

That's why gaming came up with difficulty options. You could use Trusts and implement a slider.
Or allow us to manually set the ilvl (we can already do that but it's too limited).

This is exactly why we need options.
Why can't SE understand something that has been solved decades ago?

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

That's why gaming came up with difficulty options. You could use Trusts and implement a slider.
Or allow us to manually set the ilvl (we can already do that but it's too limited).

This is exactly why we need options.
Why can't SE understand something that has been solved decades ago?

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There already is an easy mode, it is called playing Warrior.