Bring back Raise for Paladins

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Originally Posted by Alyko

Only WHMs had raises in combat. Cross-class raise was a CNJ action and was practically useless.

PLDs having raise isn't wholly unprecedented though. In FFXI they get it at Lv.50 and they can cast it any time. It's situationally useful but it takes a long time to cast and costs a ton of MP.

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If you're casting it outside of combat in XIV - again, MP consumption be damned as it regenerates in no time. In combat, however, we have a rotation that restores MP and does damage at the same time.

Sigh, who gave them the idea to remove raise from rdm and smn...

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Originally Posted by MaikoRaines

ARR 2.0 people will remember we had raises as Paladins. We didn't have anywhere near the optional content we do today. It would come in hand now in some situations.

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So not sure if you remember but back then you couldn't raise in combat with paladins, it was an out of combat only res since the in combat was tied to a trait back then.

Pretty sure Paladins had combat Raise in 1.0 (the WHM trait was introduced in 2.0 I think) but that was essentially a different game lol.

Frankly I don’t see the problem with Paladins having a costly Raise, under one condition , which is that content would need to be more difficult than it is now .

I mean, people keep saying ‘we can’t have difficulty because if healer dies it’s joever’, but that can easily be remedied by increasing the available of Raise. Every tank/practically ever dps already has party wide heals and mitigations, so if they gave more jobs Raise they could easily raise the difficulty of general content, as there’s be more ways to save the party. Currently it’s just ‘ignore party, solo boss as tank, profit’ lol

While we're at it, give bards back the healer LB3. All of their other utility has been stripped out or reduced to negligible levels, given them something unique.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

While we're at it, give bards back the healer LB3. All of their other utility has been stripped out or reduced to negligible levels, given them something unique.

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I would genuinely love this, it infuriates me when the party dies and I’m a Bard literally just standing there playing the flute with tears in my eyes. I have lived the meme but I remember a time when we could actually help lol

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Originally Posted by Connor

I would genuinely love this, it infuriates me when the party dies and I’m a Bard literally just standing there playing the flute with tears in my eyes. I have lived the meme but I remember a time when we could actually help lol

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It would also prevent BRDs from using the LB3 on single targets in parties with a melee, so please, bring it back.

Give healers and tanks a secondary dps LB3 too while we're at it, don't know how many times an lb3 at enrage while everyone but tank/healer is dead woulda ended the fight.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

While we're at it, give bards back the healer LB3. All of their other utility has been stripped out or reduced to negligible levels, given them something unique.

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I'd rather Warden's Paeon have a smaller, or even no cooldown, tbh.

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