Movement abilities with damage just feels bad.

I think they could have looked at keeping the animations possibly. The animation on Rough Divide was pretty neat. Maybe some in-game hand-wave that we stop just before connection or something like that to explain why no damage. I'm not sad to not need to weave those in for damage anymore, though. It's nice they can be saved for utility.

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Originally Posted by Asako

You are aware people play more than one job in this game right?

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Yes. I was simply commenting on the one in their profile. Which has to be manually set for expansion jobs.

Plus, they were commenting on movement being terrible when it has no damage, yet multiple jobs are like that. Non also has no damage on its primary movement skill.

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Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank

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Only DRK and GNB are affected. PLD and WAR still kept their original move with damage attached.

WAR: Onslaught
Rushes target and delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
Maximum Charges: 3
Cannot be executed while bound.

PLD: Intervene
Rushes target and delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
Maximum Charges: 2
Cannot be executed while bound.

I get what you're saying though, and it does suck for other tanks or all tanks affected :<

I agree, it would be better to remove the damage from them. Monk's shoulder tackle's funner to use when needed than war's 3 shoulder tackles used in the dps rotation.
What I'd like to see for tanks is more oGCD damage skills; specially if they alter your rotation in some meaningful way.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Min maxers? I thought that using them properly as damaging tools were common for anybody seriously doing High End content, not just min maxers.

And that's exactly why I hate ogcd movement tools with damage components because it completely defeats the utility aspect of it. Chances when you actually need to move, for an unexpected reason, you won't have it available.

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So you have to make choices in a video game and you have tradeoffs existing on skills. What's wrong exactly?

Chloe

It made more sense to lose the potency on DRK and GNB as they were flush with ogcd abilities to use and SE put a lot more potency on their GCD abilities to compensate. WAR would have been down to two and PLD would be at four with the loss of their movement ogcd damage if SE didn't add a new damage ogcd to compensate.

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Originally Posted by YouMayNot

So you have to make choices in a video game and you have tradeoffs existing on skills. What's wrong exactly?

Chloe

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It's not really a choice.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Min maxers? I thought that using them properly as damaging tools were common for anybody seriously doing High End content, not just min maxers.

And that's exactly why I hate ogcd movement tools with damage components because it completely defeats the utility aspect of it. Chances when you actually need to move, for an unexpected reason, you won't have it available.

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You can keep the charge at 1 until the last 10 seconds of the fight btw. I never take my charges down to 0 because I might need it at any moment. I would prefer if such mechanics of "asset management" would be put into other types of skills like rotation-changing skills like BLM's oGCDs; xenoglossy's one of the funnest skills in the game and that new one they got in endwalker that combines fire and ice.

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Originally Posted by YouMayNot

So you have to make choices in a video game and you have tradeoffs existing on skills. What's wrong exactly?

Chloe

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Unless you're not interested in achieving your best dps, you will be forced to use those movement actions offensively because in XIV, damage is more high value than any kind of utility.

In fact, even movement utility is not required to anything (or else everybody would need it), which makes this issue even more glaring.

I just don’t get why they did it to dragoon as backflip is right there already.