How has every other major MMO solved the problem of downtime other than FF14?

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10-02-2023, 10:59 AM
Astrahime

It's not just "a new patch in".
It's a full expansion drop for the Free Trial, and for that reason we're having a day of maintenance.
https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...b760f9c59f8a83
6.1 also had a full day of maintenance, due to the fact that they were setting up new server infrastructure.
10-02-2023, 11:04 AM
Aurikai

They haven't, I've been playing WoW since DF, EVERY major patch has led to days worth of downtime, even the minor patches cause multiple outages. They will say 8 or 10 hours of downtime, but experience so many issues they are forced to take servers down repeatedly for multiple days in a row. I would much rather FF be down a day and patched right than deal with repeated bugs for days on end.
10-02-2023, 11:49 AM
Atelier-Bagur

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Originally Posted by Aurikai

They haven't, I've been playing WoW since DF, EVERY major patch has led to days worth of downtime, even the minor patches cause multiple outages. They will say 8 or 10 hours of downtime, but experience so many issues they are forced to take servers down repeatedly for multiple days in a row. I would much rather FF be down a day and patched right than deal with repeated bugs for days on end.

Its obvious OP doesnt play any other MMO besides FFXIV so they just make these half-baked assumptions of other games in order to make their point.
10-02-2023, 11:51 AM
caffe_macchiato

Final Fantasy XIV has a LOT of issues, but I think the community is growing to be its biggest. This kind of attitude is legitimately a turn-off for some people. The maintenance isn't nearly as bad as this sad display. If I was a new player, I would look past the maintenance, but I wouldn't look past this.

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

Down a day of your RMT business? Oh no.

Since you're an honest person, have you reported this issue to Square Enix customer service? You can report RMT at the following link. You're an honest person, so you wouldn't make false allegations or reports against someone just because you didn't like him. Right?
https://support.na.square-enix.com/c...382&la=1&fty=2

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

the prodigal son returns. i thought ud been banned

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

the troll is strong in this one as every mmo has this problem but sure go on.

How does this pertain to Final Fantasy XIV?

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

didnt you say the game was dying earlier and that all the devs were leaving ? how come you're still here if the game is fully dead ?

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Originally Posted by OliverQ

Oh look, another complaint thread from someone who claims they quit. If you quit, why do you care about downtime? And other MMOs have long downtime too.

If his argument is incorrect, why are you attacking the person instead of the argument? Is his argument just too strong for you to counter?

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Its obvious OP doesnt play any other MMO besides FFXIV so they just make these half-baked assumptions of other games in order to make their point.

FFXIV does have long downtimes, but it's not its largest problem and is easily forgotten about. But it still is a problem because of the game's tech debt, which does exist. If you disagree with me, then you're also disagreeing with Yoshi-P who is clearly trying to fix an issue that you don't think exists.
10-02-2023, 11:55 AM
Stormpeaks

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Final Fantasy XIV has a LOT of issues, but I think the community is growing to be its biggest. This kind of attitude is legitimately a turn-off for some people. The maintenance isn't nearly as bad as this sad display. If I was a new player, I would look past the maintenance, but I wouldn't look past this.

Since you're an honest person, have you reported this issue to Square Enix customer service? You can report RMT at the following link. You're an honest person, so you wouldn't make false allegations or reports against someone just because you didn't like him. Right?
https://support.na.square-enix.com/c...382&la=1&fty=2

I'm fully aware you're sarcastic all the time but Gaius literally admits himself that he "takes advantage of FFXIV players" and that he doesnt pay for his sub, feel free to look up for his posts on his new alt.

So for this one time, I have to disagree.
10-02-2023, 11:57 AM
caffe_macchiato

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

I'm fully aware you're sarcastic all the time but Gaius literally admits himself that he "takes advantage of FFXIV players" and that he doesnt pay for his sub, feel free to look up for his posts on his new alt.

So for this one time, I have to disagree.

(1) Ad hominem attacks are not a discussion of Final Fantasy XIV.

(2) You may report the offending player at your leisure, but I will not do it on your behalf.

(3) What does this have to do with discussion of maintenance times?
10-02-2023, 12:13 PM
Stormpeaks

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

(1) Ad hominem attacks are not a discussion of Final Fantasy XIV.

(2) You may report the offending player at your leisure, but I will not do it on your behalf.

(3) What does this have to do with discussion of maintenance times?

Yup you're trolling, not gonna bother

Have at it lol
10-02-2023, 12:29 PM
RitsukoSonoda

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Originally Posted by Aurikai

They haven't, I've been playing WoW since DF, EVERY major patch has led to days worth of downtime, even the minor patches cause multiple outages. They will say 8 or 10 hours of downtime, but experience so many issues they are forced to take servers down repeatedly for multiple days in a row. I would much rather FF be down a day and patched right than deal with repeated bugs for days on end.

I remember the original launch of WoW... Game purchase included 30 days of game time... I didn't get a subscription charge until like 3 months later due to all the free time extensions they handed out due to server issues lol...

As for the whole gripe about FF14 having a 24 hour maintenance for a large content update. That is fairly normal tbh. Hell even mobile games have downtime periods that long for large content updates.
10-02-2023, 05:43 PM
sindriiisgaming

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Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato

Final Fantasy XIV has a LOT of issues, but I think the community is growing to be its biggest. This kind of attitude is legitimately a turn-off for some people. The maintenance isn't nearly as bad as this sad display. If I was a new player, I would look past the maintenance, but I wouldn't look past this.

Since you're an honest person, have you reported this issue to Square Enix customer service? You can report RMT at the following link. You're an honest person, so you wouldn't make false allegations or reports against someone just because you didn't like him. Right?
https://support.na.square-enix.com/c...382&la=1&fty=2
If his argument is incorrect, why are you attacking the person instead of the argument? Is his argument just too strong for you to counter?

You're clearly new to this guy and that's OK. I would recommend checking his post history for a more comprehensive look at why people respond to him the way they do. He personally lost me when he called fanartists vultures
10-02-2023, 08:45 PM
Kes13a

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

You're clearly new to this guy and that's OK. I would recommend checking his post history for a more comprehensive look at why people respond to him the way they do. He personally lost me when he called fanartists vultures

not to mention anyone who pays a sub a "paypig"

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