DRK and DRG in Frontlines

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Originally Posted by Valence

Yes there is broken combos. Imo stacking 8 SMNs together and all pulling LB at the same time (200k wide AoE potency) is even easier, but I guess it cannot be done with a light party premade alone. Still, why aren't people doing it? I suspect that most people just want to play their jobs and have fun or do their daily and not bother doing something they don't want to do. But yeah, people could retaliate with a lot of nasty stuff.

My new thing in FLs is to just go for the anti BH5 jobs like WAR, MNK, etc. You literally have all the tools you need to stun the DRG just after their LB, and punt them right in the middle of your team so they get insta deleted. Works against most jobs, and if it doesn't, it spooks them enough that they become less of a problem when trying to pull off their crap.

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I used to see more SMN pre-mades on Crystal, they were a real problem for a long while. Don't see them often anymore, not sure why.

Playing 'anti-' jobs is honestly just how I play FL nowadays. I mark enemies I know will be problematic near the start of the match, and just adjust to counter and hard-focus them the entire match. It doesn't always work, but it is very satisfying backhanding a cocky NIN or DRG and plucking their BH away from them. Believe it or not, BRD can make a decent counter to DRG, at least in making sure they can't run away. Frontlines is truly a mode where the enjoyment is derived from making sure other players can't have fun =/

If the devs truly make job adjustments based on how often individual jobs are played, like they claim they do, then I expect at least some changes to one or both of DRG and DRK in the (distant) future...

-is what I would say if I trusted them. But then you remember that DRG getting a needless buff to it's LB damage is arguably the reason why this new method has gained so much traction. Things never just get "better" in Frontlines. You just get a different flavor of cheese on the menu every 6 months.

yes drk and enemy supposedly being a premade with voice chat is annoying

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Originally Posted by AriannaStormwake

yes drk and enemy supposedly being a premade with voice chat is annoying

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yeah how dare people play with friends in my single player game smh

i have no issues about playing with friends sure but keep it to pve where it causes no issues?

as main DRK in pvp: don't stay close to DRK


that's all.

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Originally Posted by Elissar

as main DRK in pvp: don't stay close to DRK


that's all.

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While I don't get caught that often at all myself, you can't say things like this neither when infinite sprint + plunge exists, and crap servers that make you get pulled in from 30y away.

It's really not hard to pull a large amount of people as a DRK at all, you can even literally sprint in from behind and pull aswell.

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Originally Posted by Llynethil

While I don't get caught that often at all myself, you can't say things like this neither when infinite sprint + plunge exists, and crap servers that make you get pulled in from 30y away.

It's really not hard to pull a large amount of people as a DRK at all, you can even literally sprint in from behind and pull aswell.

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especially when the server snap shotting decides that you are already in range of being sucked in (and already have been sucked in), when on your end you’ve already sprinted a solid 60+ yalms away from a very clearly bad engagement.

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Originally Posted by Buzuru

i think WAR is more annoying by itself. that's why i play WAR.

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That dang chain grab!!!

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Originally Posted by Mayhemmer

If the devs truly make job adjustments based on how often individual jobs are played, like they claim they do, then I expect at least some changes to one or both of DRG and DRK in the (distant) future...

-is what I would say if I trusted them. But then you remember that DRG getting a needless buff to it's LB damage is arguably the reason why this new method has gained so much traction. Things never just get "better" in Frontlines. You just get a different flavor of cheese on the menu every 6 months.

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Devs don't balanced or design pvp jobs in accordance with Frontlines, which is enough to explain 99% of its state to me as far as I'm concerned.

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Originally Posted by Llynethil

While I don't get caught that often at all myself, you can't say things like this neither when infinite sprint + plunge exists, and crap servers that make you get pulled in from 30y away.

It's really not hard to pull a large amount of people as a DRK at all, you can even literally sprint in from behind and pull aswell.

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Just use Guard when you see a DRG LB coming. They're not exactly hard to miss with effects turned down (which is unfortunate considering you kinda need them on in CC, but in FLs, you'll just burn your eyes faster than in alliance raids with them anyway).

And if your job has teleports, then zoom away.

I know, but it sucks having to waste a valuable defensive not because of the enemy skill, but the server tickrate itself :s