A request to Soken to change certain boss music for specific Endwalker Dungeons

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

One key issue. This story CLEARLY takes after ff4 so your example holds little water there. If you have an issue with fanservice in a game like xiv "that's revolves around fanservice" you may be playing the wrong game. Skip cutscenes if it bothers that much. Folks say this post story is lasting to long but I bet if they cut it in half yall would then complain about stories not being focused enough and jumping all over the place.

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I don’t take issue with some fan service dang near every game in the series references other games of the series, however I do take issue when the fan service is overboard.

And FFIV for Endwalker has long overstepped that boundary from acceptable fan service to way too fucking much that I never wanna see another IV reference for a fair long while.

And lastly go fuck yourself telling me whether or not I should play a game or skip cutscenes, if I enjoy playing a game I will play it and even while enjoying it I can point out things that bug me doesn’t make me hate it automatically but certainly any game is open to criticism and I find that they have overdone the FFIV fan service for Endwalker (feel free to report I generally don’t care much about the forums anymore my talking rate took a sharp nose dive and I generally do not care so telling ads while like you to go fuck yourself is very liberating) ciao

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

I don’t take issue with some fan service dang near every game in the series references other games of the series, however I do take issue when the fan service is overboard.

And FFIV for Endwalker has long overstepped that boundary from acceptable fan service to way too fucking much that I never wanna see another IV reference for a fair long while.

And lastly go fuck yourself telling me whether or not I should play a game or skip cutscenes, if I enjoy playing a game I will play it and even while enjoying it I can point out things that bug me doesn’t make me hate it automatically but certainly any game is open to criticism and I find that they have overdone the FFIV fan service for Endwalker (feel free to report I generally don’t care much about the forums anymore my talking rate took a sharp nose dive and I generally do not care so telling ads while like you to go fuck yourself is very liberating) ciao

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Welp there goes all that credibility out the window

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

I don’t take issue with some fan service dang near every game in the series references other games of the series, however I do take issue when the fan service is overboard.

And FFIV for Endwalker has long overstepped that boundary from acceptable fan service to way too fucking much that I never wanna see another IV reference for a fair long while.

And lastly go fuck yourself telling me whether or not I should play a game or skip cutscenes, if I enjoy playing a game I will play it and even while enjoying it I can point out things that bug me doesn’t make me hate it automatically but certainly any game is open to criticism and I find that they have overdone the FFIV fan service for Endwalker (feel free to report I generally don’t care much about the forums anymore my talking rate took a sharp nose dive and I generally do not care so telling ads while like you to go fuck yourself is very liberating) ciao

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Meh, if I wanna hear the FFIV regular battle theme, I'll go play FFIV. Last time in SHB when they did that music change, it really sucked and made the last boss theme to those dungeons feel lesser too. I think they should just give the dungeon bosses music that fits each boss's fight the best like they were doing in the past somewhat. Variety is the spice of life, and dungeons are already way too streamlined and similar. Don't need them to be even more uniform.

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Originally Posted by Eorzean_username

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Troia and Manalis use the FFIV standard "Boss" theme ("Battle 2") for their Fiends.

Barbariccia uses the actual Four Fiends theme.

OP is asking for the Dungeon "mid-bosses" to make the carpet match the drapes by giving them the FFIV "normal battle" theme ("Battle 1"), thereby completing the FFIV battle theme triforce.

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Yes the Mid-boss themes.

Honestly I don't know why some people on these forums keep thinking I'm saying something else, this happened to me a few times already and its getting on my nerves.

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Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Meh, if I wanna hear the FFIV regular battle theme, I'll go play FFIV. Last time in SHB when they did that music change, it really sucked and made the last boss theme to those dungeons feel lesser too. I think they should just give the dungeon bosses music that fits each boss's fight the best like they were doing in the past somewhat. Variety is the spice of life, and dungeons are already way too streamlined and similar. Don't need them to be even more uniform.

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On the other hand, it helps keep the idea of a dungeon feel part of an expansion's arc story when you hear its boss theme. This is something thats been standard in rpgs since forever and honestly the boss themes starting from SB-EW have been consistently good imo, I always found the mixed boss themes used in ARR and Heavensward (minus a certain one) to be very sleepy.

I mean, if they added different music to every boss that's be fine with me. More music is more music. Buts its not something that I feel that its in desperate need. The music of FFXIV and how its handled is fine imo.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

I don’t take issue with some fan service dang near every game in the series references other games of the series, however I do take issue when the fan service is overboard.

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Just wait until you find out Meteor (our stand-in for WOL in the CG trailers) changing his job from Dark Knight to Paladin is another reference to FF4 (Cecil turning into a Paladin with his original class being Dark Knight)

The agony...

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Welp there goes all that credibility out the window

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Sorry about that I just have no excuse for it and I apologise for it but I do really wanna highlight how overused FFIV fan service has been in Endwalker specifically:

-Tower of Zot(including a few enemies within it)
-Magus Sisters(they are just slightly altered Amano artwork designs)
-Tower of Babil
-Barnabos
-Dr Lugae(still ongoing)
-The Watcher(aka FuSoYa right down to the rainbow robes)
-Loporrits
-IV town theme
-IV battle theme in the loporrit areas
-Moon is artificial and made by a different race of people(in this case Hydaelyn the last ancient), also there were a load of people sleeping in status waiting to wake up
-actually have a fair bit a break until, travel to space on a spaceship to go beat up an entity trying to kill life on the planet
-Have many fake out deaths (entire last zone of EW is on par with entirety of IV)
-Troia
-Scarmilogne
-Barbarricca (actually the most unique of all the void series)
-Cagnazzo
-Rubicante
-Golbez
-Shadow dragon
-Zeromus
-IV four fiends theme
-Octomammoth



It really really feels overdone in EW to the point I generally never want to see anything else from IV again in XIV and that is a goddamn shame (when it was more spaced out in older expansions it was fine and I had no issue with it)

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

It really really feels overdone in EW to the point I generally never want to see anything else from IV again in XIV and that is a goddamn shame (when it was more spaced out in older expansions it was fine and I had no issue with it)

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I think it's because older expansions tended to quarantine a reference into a specific piece of content, rather than basically using it as a topcoat for the entire MSQ.

Rather than just, "Ha ha, that's the [insert game] content over there, hanging around optionally at the edges of the MSQ", it has become, "Well I guess this is FFIV Online now".

To be blunt, most of FFXIV's directorial decisions are ultimately marketing/recruitment-oriented, and the immense nostalgia / popularity of FFIV in the FF fan community's collective conscious is probably a driving factor here.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Sorry about that I just have no excuse for it and I apologise for it but I do really wanna highlight how overused FFIV fan service has been in Endwalker specifically:

-Tower of Zot(including a few enemies within it)
-Magus Sisters(they are just slightly altered Amano artwork designs)
-Tower of Babil
-Barnabos
-Dr Lugae(still ongoing)
-The Watcher(aka FuSoYa right down to the rainbow robes)
-Loporrits
-IV town theme
-IV battle theme in the loporrit areas
-Moon is artificial and made by a different race of people(in this case Hydaelyn the last ancient), also there were a load of people sleeping in status waiting to wake up
-actually have a fair bit a break until, travel to space on a spaceship to go beat up an entity trying to kill life on the planet
-Have many fake out deaths (entire last zone of EW is on par with entirety of IV)
-Troia
-Scarmilogne
-Barbarricca (actually the most unique of all the void series)
-Cagnazzo
-Rubicante
-Golbez
-Shadow dragon
-Zeromus
-IV four fiends theme
-Octomammoth



It really really feels overdone in EW to the point I generally never want to see anything else from IV again in XIV and that is a goddamn shame (when it was more spaced out in older expansions it was fine and I had no issue with it)

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Where were you in Shadowbringers?