in 8v8v8 very rarely did you move as a whole group. That was a good way to lose. You split off into groups of 2-4 to fight for objectives.
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Which means no caster, healer or ranged job would ever be seen in an 8v8v8 right now, imagine running into a 4 man group of 2 ninja's, a monk and a samurai when your 4 man group has summoner and astro in it, only option is to let em complete blast your apart so you can go back to spawn to change into a melee or tank job.
You can solo defend as a paladin on any point against 2-4 people and by the time you take him out (if you even can before he just runs off), the point will have despawned.
Building Groups of 8 people was a feature only available to pvpers so the non-pvpers complained about not being able to build groups..... wait....
Seriously though, people who didnt wanna put in any effort got 24 man Frontlines removed.
Id have them drop an team so its only 24 vs 24 and not this bs....
I am sorry i will not be able to dig out notes and posts or Videos from Years ago.
But fun fact: The PvP got changed from all pve skills + additional pvp skills to 10 buttons because people complained about pvp being to hard.
PvP was a entirely different World in Heavensward :( We even had Gear back then.
8 men premades seal clubbing all day long was peak HW/SB pvp frontlines
I'm glad that I've gotten a chance to complete my goal of beating an entire 8 man premade without help from another premade granted that I had to take the coward's way out and abuse all objectives in order to win.
I would like 24 man frontlines to return. However, it's pretty obvious that the community can't handle premades in pvp for whatever reason. Something is going to have to give in order for the mode to return most likely if this is even being considered at all.
Thanks for all the info, yeah I can see the idea of premades really does rub people the wrong way.