Why did they remove the 24 man mode of FL?

[Bobby66]

Probably in the minority but I do miss the 24 man made of FL. I do like the goals of FL for the most part, but always preferred the smaller size. Yes I understand CC is a thing, but I just don't get why they removed the 24 version. Would also help the new server queue maybe.

72 players is just a tad too chaotic at times. Of course adjusts to DR would have to be made but yeah.

[BubblyBoar]

24 man seal rock was pretty fun. But it was only really supposed to be when 72 man didnt fill up.

[Bobby66]

24 man seal rock was pretty fun. But it was only really supposed to be when 72 man didnt fill up.

True, but a happy middle ground mode between CC and FL would be nice, though I guess it would divide the queue too much. Rival wings is okay, but at the core FFXIV FL objectives are not inherently bad, I just think 72 people just makes it far too chaotic to properly enjoy on a personal level imo.

Agree though 24 seal rock was a blast.

[Valence]

I've always liked the 24man FLs. They weren't gigantic zerg clown fiestas. I never understood why they removed them.

[ICountFrom0]

I've always dreamed of the system having a max que duration for frontline where after, say, 10 minutes of trying to get a 72 man, it would instead launch instances of 24. But that seems to be far more complex then the system will allow these days.

[Llynethil]

Because with current system it would just be 1 DRK and stack aoe's, can wipe entire enemy team so easily in an 8v8v8.

Or considering the current dr, you could just roll ninja or monk and literally never die in an 8v8v8 mode, you'd have to actually afk to try and die.

[Atreus]

The reason? They were upset about 8-man premades and took a bunch of overkill actions to stop it, including removing 24-man FL matches.

[Ransu]

It was a myriad of reasons, but the main ones were basically;

Removing the GC locks opened up the queue so filling a 72 player map became easier (even more so after they added a roulette with exp rewards making the mode pop frequently.)

8v8v8 created a constant premade group stomping so they clearly wanted to end that without hurting the ability to group up. Its clear with CC that they want to avoid premade problems considering in CC they don't even allow groups at all.

[Commander_Justitia]

You weren't supposed to have so much fun at the cost of other players, so now you have your 33% winrate playing with random people you don't know so be happy.

[Ransu]

You weren't supposed to have so much fun at the cost of other players, so now you have your 33% winrate playing with random people you don't know so be happy.

Its not fun being on the receiving end of a premade... They could have solved it by reducing the group size of premades to 4 player groups for 8v8v8 matches, but that would have required them to split frontlines into two separate queues which obviously they don't want to do.