This new SYSTEM DOESN'T Work

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Originally Posted by Solarra

While I am happy for the people who server-transferred and got a house, I don't feel we should accept having to choose between our friends and getting a house. For many of us an MMO isn't as much about the things you 'own' but more about the people you meet.

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While I agree in general principle, unfortunately SE didn't design the housing system with that sort of flexibility.

Players who want a house need to deal with the system as it currently is. Dreaming of what it could have been isn't going to make the available houses move from their current worlds to the worlds that need them.

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Originally Posted by Solarra

I would be in favour of some bad-luck protection, but having been around for most of the band-aids they've slapped on house purchasing and seen the negative consequences, I'd like them to thoroughly research any method they choose rather than rush in and create a new rash of exploits and issues for us to deal with.

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Bad luck protection systems cannot work when it is players competing against players for the prize. They only work when it's the player competing solely against the game.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

A lot of people somehow view the chances of a 0% chance vs a 0.0000025% chance as a worthwhile improvement from the small indie dev that is Square Enix.

I dont

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Thousands of NA players over the last two weeks have purchased houses and 99.9% of them had zero competition for their plot. Considering you're on Marilith, you're probably one of them.

Why pretend that 99.9% chance that SE gave you was only 0.0000025%?

Would it be nice if SE could adopt LotRO's system of adding new wards as needed just on the worlds where they are needed? Of course. They should have better researched what MMO players expect from housing before implementing a half-baked system that doesn't meet player expectations.

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be possible with their game set-up. In that case, players need to seize what opportunity may be presented to them if they're going to get what they want. Or they can sit in the forums complaining and do without.

Hopefully, you weren't trying to go after one of the premium plots that had what little competition there was so you have your house now. If you didn't win, there are still houses left for the next lottery and you can get one then.

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Originally Posted by Camishami

I feel like i have absolutely no chance at winning the lottery. There is'nt enough housing for everyone and it feels like the JUMBO CACTPOT i've been playing since 2012 and have never won that either, so i feel like the lottery system is the same, and makes me wanna quit this game sometimes.

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This is what folks been saying since people first started to suggest it.

Hard not to say, "I told you so" but ...
... I won't, because the old situation was not good, the new one isn't good, and there really IS no solution out there.

We all just suffer together, like family at thanksgiving.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

There has never been a house in the lottery that drew 400,000 bids. If you're going to use spurious "math" as an argument, at least make it realistic.

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Methinks they may have been overexaggerating to make a point. They're not using math as an argument, they're using the percent as a literary device. Same as when people say something is a 1-in-a-million chance. It's not a literal thing and taking it literally just hurts your point.

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Originally Posted by Camishami

I feel like i have absolutely no chance at winning the lottery. There is'nt enough housing for everyone and it feels like the JUMBO CACTPOT i've been playing since 2012 and have never won that either, so i feel like the lottery system is the same, and makes me wanna quit this game sometimes.

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I won a house right where I wanted it, and I also was winner 420 of my cactpot lottery. Sounds like a skill issue fren :)

The system works as intended. Just because you can't win something doesn't mean it doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Battler-Ushiromiya

I won a house right where I wanted it, and I also was winner 420 of my cactpot lottery. Sounds like a skill issue fren :)

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I mean, random luck has nothing to do with skill.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

The system works as intended. Just because you can't win something doesn't mean it doesn't work.

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Agreed, the lottery does work. It may take awhile, or it may never work for some, but it does work. Someone always wins.

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Originally Posted by Camishami

I feel like i have absolutely no chance at winning the lottery.

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That's the definition of lottery - the odds are commonly exceedingly low. But this is a raffle. That's besides the point though.

The lottery system is operating just fine. It picks one player from the list of bids. No placard spamming. No fighting with auto-clickers. It is doing exactly what it should. The problem is the supply. Lottery was never designed to fix supply. And in the near future, SE is adding more wards which will address supply.

And my advice for when that happens - if you own no house, go after a smalls only. Mediums and Larges will have a much higher volume of bids by players that own smalls, mediums or not plot at all. Whereas smalls will likely only have bids by the homeless. Your best shot is the first lottery period on a small.

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Originally Posted by dspguy

And in the near future, SE is adding more wards which will address supply.

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That's the only part I don't agree with here, because they aren't addressing the core issue - supply. This is only adding another bandage to the ever-growing tear in the skin of housing.

If they wanted to address it, they would instance housing - as has been discussed, mutilated, chopped up and all sorts of conversations about it here. And, as I've said before - the only reason housing is designed the way it is now is for Yoshi-P's pride and nothing more. He would rather feed his delusions of a 'neighborhood feeling' than solve the problem and make a lot of users happier with this game. The problem is, he can have both, but he just doesn't do it. Pride.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

That's the only part I don't agree with here, because they aren't addressing the core issue - supply. This is only adding another bandage to the ever-growing tear in the skin of housing.

If they wanted to address it, they would instance housing - as has been discussed, mutilated, chopped up and all sorts of conversations about it here. And, as I've said before - the only reason housing is designed the way it is now is for Yoshi-P's pride and nothing more. He would rather feed his delusions of a 'neighborhood feeling' than solve the problem and make a lot of users happier with this game. The problem is, he can have both, but he just doesn't do it. Pride.

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That's a strange response. "Adding more supply doesn't address supply".

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It does address supply. What we don't know is how adequately it will address it for each world.

If you meant to say that it is not a final solution to the problem, then I'd agree.