When do we have normal balance in CC?

The model is still there, haven't truly gotten away from it, it's just not as obvious or important as it used to be. Mirror matches can proc, but it'll just fall back on skill, but then it's ehh. Just take down 1-2 and you have the advantage so it's just a numbers game with a chance of a comeback if you guess correctly because you can't truly communicate with other players.......other than 3rd party apps....that's pointless to have due to random players comp via solo que.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

Perhaps think carefully why the devs chose to move away from that model, and why it's made pvp so much more popular...

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Another model, Another goal, simplier jobs, bigger problems.
Seems like this so far.

I mean I can't rly understand you, coz if skill is equal then classes win (not even jobs), right?

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Originally Posted by Holmesy

What "skill" do you need on bard (for example) if you don't have any dmg vs melee? You do not have hp, and you are only dps here? Team skill? Good luck then, team skill will be more revealing with normal team balance.

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Bard has plenty of damage vs melee.

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Originally Posted by Holmesy

You probably didn't have games where you simply can't oppose anything to the other team.

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Everyone deals with the same matchmaking, job roster, maps, map hazards, respawn timers, overtime rules etc. Everyone has been trounced so hard they started questionning their own skills, just like everyone has won matches effortlessly. That's the nature of Solo queue team modes.

You should accept this fact until ranked Light Party queuing gets added or move on.

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Originally Posted by Gserpent

Bard has plenty of damage vs melee.

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BRD used to be able to hold their own with mDPS, but with the 6.18 changes, mDPS is able to survive and keep close to the BRD, thus nullifying the damage BRD does. AFAIK, it's the only job that has a requirement to stay at ranged to be do max damage on their main DPS skill.

CC isn't Feast, using the argument that leveling the playing field would increase play times is nothing but a pathetic strawman argument.

The fact is they could easily fix issues, but since CC has 100000's players more than Feast ever did they won't, because why put in effort, when the numbers prove you don't need to?

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Originally Posted by Petite

Everyone deals with the same matchmaking, job roster, maps, map hazards, respawn timers, overtime rules etc. Everyone has been trounced so hard they started questionning their own skills, just like everyone has won matches effortlessly. That's the nature of Solo queue team modes.

You should accept this fact until ranked Light Party queuing gets added or move on.

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I don't want Light party, I just want to play normal and with out 30 sec games, where there is no skill, coz your classes do everything for you.

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Originally Posted by Holmesy

I don't want Light party, I just want to play normal and with out 30 sec games, where there is no skill, coz your classes do everything for you.

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This is solo queue. Start praying for snow in Fiji.

Restrict the queues for balance while demoting is nonexistent, and I'll guarantee you that the queues will die from the bottom up.

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Originally Posted by Holmesy

Another model, Another goal, simplier jobs, bigger problems.
Seems like this so far.

I mean I can't rly understand you, coz if skill is equal then classes win (not even jobs), right?

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So.

We go back to old feast model, then? Queues die because no one wants to play healers? And maybe you take out healers and then what, queues die because no tanks?

So you take out healers and tanks and you have all DPS matches and... ah, wait, that sounds an awful lot like what we have now.