Either enforce roles or remove them entirely

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Originally Posted by Iyrnwaen

Has nothing to do with the comp and everything to do with the players.

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Has everything to do with the comp

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Has everything to do with the comp

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I have won against that comp with PLD, SGE, AST, BLM and BRD before. It is possible.
Actually, BRD was the MVP of the team with well-placed silence and CC. We also won due to sheer stalling power of PLD, AST and SGE.
As for me, the BLM, i was just there to freeze and burn people for a little bit more dmg. We only got 3 deaths but 16 kills.

You people compare matches that can't be compared to begin with. You simply don't know the skill level of the players that participated.

I only know that matchmaking drives ppl mad as much as in feast before.

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Originally Posted by Stasya

They copy overwatch (failed) pvp system yet they didn't even forced roles/team comp.

Losing and getting less xp/other stuff because matchmaking put you into 100% lost match is horrible
Like literally right now i am losing because it's tank x healer vs tank and 4 dps.

Thank you SE for destroying sam and also making me feel wortheless in garbage pvp mode

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what u talking about, normally 4 dps and a tank can win EZ against 1tank 1 healer 3dps.

4 dps burst is hard to counter.

I can only repeat what ive always said - remove all tanks and healer from pvp and make it dps only. tanks and healer dont have buisness leveling there anyways...

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

I can only repeat what ive always said - remove all tanks and healer from pvp and make it dps only. tanks and healer dont have buisness leveling there anyways...

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Edited as I wasn't sure if your post was related to leveling or related to those roles in PVP.

If you want to level, feel free to spam PVE content, for example deep dungeons like HOH.
The purpose of PVP content is to ..PVP.

The EXP is a bonus, it is not the primary goal. The game designers have added it in as an incentive in this game since PVP isn't the core content and they want to keep it alive. So we don't have role requirements in PVP currently, i don't see why we shouldn't preserve the ability to join as any role.

So- I don't see why you would even want DPS only roles in PVP- with the current changes , healers 9for example) are more of a DPS with utility.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

Because this matchmaking is hot garbage and I'm tired of getting these wacked out teams where one side is loaded with burst and the other side is a bunch of support classes that can't kill anything. Like what is my team of a brd, blm, pld, sge, ast supposed to do against a whm, sge, drg, sam, nin?????

If square wants this mode to work with no role enforcement then the concept of support/tank designs need to disappear.

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They pretty much have removed roles. They're essentially cosmetic.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

They pretty much have removed roles. They're essentially cosmetic.

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They really are not.

Up vote for another “it’s SE’s fault that I can’t climb” post. I’ll give you the same answer I give everyone. If matchmaking, cheaters, job imbalance, win traders or any of the other hundred excuses that you all make when you can’t climb we’re actually as chronic as you say, then no one would be at Crystal. There’s roughly 5-6 hundred people at crystal tier on Crystal DC at the moment. Did we all cheat our way here with our dark web match-making mods?

It’s not the matchmaking, it’s you; and if you spent h a l f the time practicing as you did crying at your over-priced neon LED keyboard. you’d get out of bronze.

The saddest part about these posts is that the people that write them don’t want to come up to crystal for the challenge, it’s because they want to be able to tell everyone they made crystal.

No, in any system where matchmaking and balance issues can be major factors to decide, you ll have about half the people simply having a worse-than-average luck on this. Its statistics. Since FFXIV made advancement quite soft, more than 50% of people can advance, but for a lot of them (those with slightly less than average luck in matchup) they need to clock a LOT of matches to outweigh their tough luck.
And now imagine a player who is not significantly superior than everyone else in the match, and/or plays a class that is not a carry. With slightly less than average matchup luck, that player can be having trouble for no fault of their own.
We only hear from those who got shafted. We rarely hear from those who got lucky. For example, I havent even gotten the new armor look yet, so not much games played, and still do a lot of frontline. I still find crystalline conflict easy to level with a WHM, even though I am certainly not a good PvP player. I just get lucky, or my opponents unlucky, to have groups of bards and worse healers.