Ifrit is dead. What OTHER avatars would you like as Summoner?

Ifrit
Shiva
Ramuh
Titan
Leviathan
Carbuncle
Fenrir
Diabolos
Garuda

And a 15 min ability that let me call Alexander and Odin for a min.

Ok, now without joke, Ifrit and Shiva are a must.

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Originally Posted by vax

Ifrit
Shiva
Ramuh
Titan
Leviathan
Carbuncle
Fenrir
Diabolos
Garuda

And a 15 min ability that let me call Alexander and Odin for a min.

Ok, now without joke, Ifrit and Shiva are a must.

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most of those are primals, so it won't happen.

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Originally Posted by Raymeo

Whenever I hear/read discussions about Summoners in FFXIV 2.0, I always hear the same thing: "It won't be Summoner if we can't summon the celestial avatars from XI, but they've already been adapted as the elemental Primals in XIV! What's the point of adding Summoner if the lore says we can't summon those?!"

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I've never seen this said, ever.

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Originally Posted by Deltara

ifrit was a terrestrial avatar, not celestial

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The purpose was to belittle XI fans, which is a common theme around these forums lol.

Inb4 "Oh sorry I meant terrestrial."

They already stated full well this time around lesser summons "Like Carbuncle" will be what summoners would use if/when they introduce the class/job, which means unlike XI they're going back to the "tier" system older FFs used with summons, i.e the ones you bought were powerful, the ones you challenged to obtain were powerful, the ones you got as a random drop were shit and so on.

I'd play SMN, if I could rename Carbuncle.. into.. Pepé le Pew

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Originally Posted by Deltara

ifrit was a terrestrial avatar, not celestial

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No ifrit is a celestial a god of the universe terastrial a gods from the earth. Ie salamander

And I pray se doesn't give summons a perpetual cost. If ppl who say this isn't 11 the it shouldn't have the cost 11 did

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Originally Posted by Deltara

ifrit was a terrestrial avatar, not celestial

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Ifrit was, in fact, Celestial.

Celestial Avatars:
Ifrit
Titan
Leviathan
Shiva
Garuda
Ramuh

Terrestrial Avatars:
Carbuncle
Fenrir
Diabolos
Phoenix
Bahamut

Officially Uncatagorized (Though Odin and Alexander are tied to the Celestials):
Atomos (Player name "Temporal Avatar")
Cait Sith (Tears of Altana)
Odin
Alexander

(This is all from the XI perspective)

Yep, given the story in XI, the Terrestrial were seen as the 'true gods', while celestial were seen as 'false gods' though they're just as powerful as the Terrestrial ones which is why they lay dormant.

I think during WoTG they just consider Atomos the Time & Space avatar. In XIV's world, there's Primals which are considered a higher being but technically aren't a governing force of Eorzea like how summons were to Vanadiel, so I doubt categories truly matter this time around, just which one isn't really put on a pedestal like Titan, Garuda, Ramuh and Ifrit is.

you got them mixed up Celestial are the true gods. Carbuncle even says it that if Ifrit Shiva, etc woken up from the crystals they are sleeping in that him fenrir bahamut and diablos would return to be animals as they were. and the crystal they were sleeping in were in the area right behind were you fought the Prime fights or solo fights you were basically fighting their astral projections.

and made a list in my post about what avatars we could get.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Talk-Summoner

i want ixion though