[Petition] Have Naoki Yoshida Play Healer and take off the DPS Gloves for a year.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

Oh and while we’re at it, let’s change the name of the role from healer to support. Because that’s exactly what you people seem to want. Most of y’all don’t heal as it is and causing unnecessary party/raid wipes. So yeah let’s rename the healer role to just support with just a few unique heals for each. Kinda like in pvp.

Let’s give every job their own unique spam heal that uses mp just like in pvp. That way the new support can have all these pretty amazing new dps tools and rotations.

I’m sure you all would love that. Let’s do it. Get the petitions ready. Let’s do it.

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Unironically, I would love that. I always love playing support classes in games, managing buffs and the like. If we can bring back old sb astro into the support role, with a cool dps rotation, I would love to give that a try. I have honestly hoped for a support role for a long time, as it is right now, if you want a buff placed playstyle, you only have bard/dancer after the ninja change. Buff diversity would be very welcome imo.

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

He said they did what they've done all xpacs: First tier of SVG and other content is intentionally easier. Difficulty of stuff will ramp up throughout the xpac. I guess compare Titan to Shiva in Eden?

I enjoy healing right now, but if people have an issue with it I believe all voices should be heard. I just think poorly paraphrasing his answer creates misinformation and muddles the conversation.
That's just what I think though.

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I would say thats debatable considering that the overall tier of Verse vs Gate and Verse's first three fights were easy to healing(espeically e7s compared to e3s and hell even titan's damage was more spread out where shiva just had the first move, add phase and final wyrms, shiva had minute stretches of no heavy damage even not accounting for the cutscene)

Also allow me to ask this question then, why do tanks and dps are able to fully their first experience with savage from the get go while healers have to wait for ultimate and the second tier of savage fin 4 and 8 months respectively?

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

Oh and while we’re at it, let’s change the name of the role from healer to support. Because that’s exactly what you people seem to want. Most of y’all don’t heal as it is and causing unnecessary party/raid wipes. So yeah let’s rename the healer role to just support with just a few unique heals for each. Kinda like in pvp.

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What game are you playing where Healers can prevent a wipe with healing? Because at least ime, it isnt FFXIV. Most unavoidable damage takes 1-2 oGCDs to heal the whole party up again. And a lot avoidable damage just kills you if you stand in it.
In fact most wipes i see in EX+ content is the result of people eating instant death mechanics.
And i haven't seen any wipes in normal content outside of week one, where noone knows what's going on yet.

And ESP. During dungeons, there's little to no use for Healers depending on the Tank in question. WAR just never needs healing and half the paladins i run into start spamming clemency if they are below 80% health.
And even DRK and GNB are usualy more than fine with just throwing them 1-3 oGCDs each trash pull.

Biggest mechanic for healers is having to know the entire fight so they can prepare to heal when needed and to be faster to react to people failing mechanics, something a little more meaningful could be fun...


Making him play the Glare Mage would probably make them improve healers as a whole. Even if people managed to make him do it, I wouldn't expect to see healers getting some kind of rotation or anything... Just maybe an extra attack or two, that's requirements aren't tied to using up certain cooldowns *cough*Afflatus*cough*.


Sage as a healer isn't all that terribly off in terms of attacks... But I feel as a healer, Broil Mage is a better shield healer.

Everyone keeps on saying "they can't make it harder" when most of the complaints are "we're bored, please give us something to do but spam dosis/broil/glare/malefic" which doesn't necessitate a difficulty boost! just a little more attention and creativity when it comes to healer skills/spells. literally everyone thinks we want to make everyone else suffer so we can heal more. Not being able to heal is a symptom, the cause is overly simplistic and unengaging ability design and tanks who can run half the 90 dungeons without a healer. It leaves us with the hopes that our team is new/doesn't know mechs so we can shepherd them through it. We're mentors by force.

And don't get me wrong, I love mentoring sprouts. They're great, and often nice. But most of the time in Expert I'm with people who have their things down and that just leaves me hitting my one attack spell to make things go faster for a tank and dps who are annoyed if anything takes too long. Whenever people voice complaints (which I will also point out, every expansion a whole bunch of healers would complain and become more alienated with their role, so them "doing what they do for each expansion" is also not an answer because the same thing has been complained about increasingly with each passing expansion) people get snide or they come in to say "but i'm happy! everything should stay as is!" as if we weren't aware people exist that still play the role regularly. It's condescending, which sucks when everyone else seems to have gotten input towards changes that were made from tanking to dpsing to hairstyles to gender-locked clothing... Healers are just complaining though. It's tiresome.

Oh and in case it isn't obvious: co-signed.

healer hrothgar would be quite the eye-opener for him i'd think. a year might be too long, but i'd love for him to, say, go through all of NG+ as it

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Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard

Biggest mechanic for healers is having to know the entire fight so they can prepare to heal when needed and to be faster to react to people failing mechanics, something a little more meaningful could be fun...


Making him play the Glare Mage would probably make them improve healers as a whole. Even if people managed to make him do it, I wouldn't expect to see healers getting some kind of rotation or anything... Just maybe an extra attack or two, that's requirements aren't tied to using up certain cooldowns *cough*Afflatus*cough*.


Sage as a healer isn't all that terribly off in terms of attacks... But I feel as a healer, Broil Mage is a better shield healer.

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SGE has ~4 numerically identical (or very nearly) buttons to press offensively with little nuance between them (you just use them as they become available for the most part, barring your capstone), making them effectively one button that you get to pick the particle effect you like

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

Most of y’all don’t heal as it is and causing unnecessary party/raid wipes.

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My god, the salt lmao. Did some healer not rezzed you quick enough?

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

yeah let’s rename the healer role to just support with just a few unique heals for each. Kinda like in pvp

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I mean, why not? This game already focuses so much on damage (dps-ing) after all.

I do like healing, I want to do more healing, but with the way this game works, I will be a deadweight if that's what I do in a fight.

Hmm yes Hrothgar WHM.
And make him wear the AF robes as well to see if he likes the look of it or finds it looks silly on male character.

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Originally Posted by SweetPete

Oh and while we’re at it, let’s change the name of the role from healer to support.

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I'd welcome it wholeheartedly. Take away all mitigations and party buffs the dps have and give them to us healers.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. If I were a dev, I would understanding all roles in a video game would make for better balancing decisions. But it seems like he just watches some pov gameplay videos from his team and then drafts up a supposed fix.

Hrothgar WHM in endgame content would be the eye opener he needs to see how ignorant the team has been about the role and how stupid the limitations are for viera and Hrothgar.

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Originally Posted by SpiralMask

SGE has ~4 numerically identical (or very nearly) buttons to press offensively with little nuance between them (you just use them as they become available for the most part, barring your capstone), making them effectively one button that you get to pick the particle effect you like

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Well, compared to Sage's alternative of Scholar who has the option to cast Broil or to cast Broil, it's a lot better. Maybe they should beef up Toxion to make it stronger than Dosis to give it an advantage other than being instant cast when casting it at a single target.