Trust "Avatar" Mode -- Are the name changes necessary?

They added the avatar thing to lessen confusion with running them as trust players versus scenario mode.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Wh... what? Unless I'm misunderstanding you... Holminster switch does have Avatars.

https://i.gyazo.com/29064704fff4663f...f811c68031.jpg

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It used to be just the name of the member, no "avatar" stuck on. That's like "Copy of" and feels just weird.

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Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan

It used to be just the name of the member, no "avatar" stuck on. That's like "Copy of" and feels just weird.

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It worked well for Tower of Zot, but once I got my Trust to Tower of Babil and it was still present, it was very jarring and off-putting.

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Originally Posted by technole

They added the avatar thing to lessen confusion with running them as trust players versus scenario mode.

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Yeah, pretty sure this is the actual reason ahah. Like, imagine seeing your friend play the game in Avatar mode, but it just says Thancred, Y'shtola, and Ryne and they're in Holm Switch. I can see plenty of confusion from newer players regarding something like that.

If you get confused about something like this, I don't know what to tell you... lol

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Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan

If you get confused about something like this, I don't know what to tell you... lol

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I'm sorry, but there are indeed newer players who don't understand the trust function. It's not as if they can look at someone playing Holm Switch with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola and immediately know that access to that functionality is gated behind finishing up the MSQ and being in Avatar mode, leveling the trust avatars. Having it be "Thancred's Avatar" allows for newer players who may not understand the trust function to see that it's not just a feature they missed while playing through the story.

It's not as though we have players who don't even understand that they need to actually complete the MSQ to gain access to post-MSQ content, though, right? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

I'm sorry, but there are indeed newer players who don't understand the trust function. It's not as if they can look at someone playing Holm Switch with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola and immediately know that access to that functionality is gated behind finishing up the MSQ and being in Avatar mode, leveling the trust avatars. Having it be "Thancred's Avatar" allows for newer players who may not understand the trust function to see that it's not just a feature they missed while playing through the story.

It's not as though we have players who don't even understand that they need to actually complete the MSQ to gain access to post-MSQ content, though, right? :rolleyes:

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People might be new, but they're not stupid. That's a very important difference.

There's alot that would love to have multiple yshtolas.....

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Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan

People might be new, but they're not stupid. That's a very important difference.

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So you're saying that only someone stupid wouldn't be able to look at someone playing with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola in Holminster Switch and figure out immediately that said access to that functionality is gated by completion of the MSQ and accessible only through the Avatar mode? That's fairly insulting to those who managed to glance at screenshots before entering Holminster Switch and were unaware that those characters would not be joining them.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

So you're saying that only someone stupid wouldn't be able to look at someone playing with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola in Holminster Switch and figure out immediately that said access to that functionality is gated by completion of the MSQ and accessible only through the Avatar mode? That's fairly insulting to those who managed to glance at screenshots before entering Holminster Switch and were unaware that those characters would not be joining them.

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You can read what I said. I said exactly that. Please unlearn your FFXIV-Forum-habit of putting words in people's mouths.