On Extreme Role-playing Within XIV

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Originally Posted by Tyssyn

A problem I would see with such extreme role play is inevitably someone would say something racist, xenophobic or intolerant, and someone else would take it seriously and report the person.. The person would claim'I was just role playing' and open up a pandora's box of problems. Most people have had experiences with someone making a hurtful nasty comment then claiming they were just joking. Similar issue here. Where do you draw the line? 'I was just role playing' would be seen by some people as a license to be as hateful, nasty etc as they want, and not have any consequences for it. Say, someone decides they don't like me personally, so they decide they will 'rp someone who is racist against Viera' and use that as a way to verbally attack.

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I mean if it is kept within the realm of fantasy and not bridging the gap to attacking the player behind the character, I'd say it's all fair game.

If you find people who want to write with a character of that nature, then you can. Most people I run into tend to find it uncomfortable, not all that fun, and pulls at allegorical experiences they may have had IRL before and don't really want to deal with in their own hobby that's often just for... well, fun.

In my experience, most people who choose to write characters as such tend to be pretty mediocre at actually writing a character and just want to make a scene/make other people feel uncomfortable for the sake of doing so and not for any compelling narrative. It almost always comes off as just someone's edgy high school fantasy. Especially since the actual themes at play, the morality of the theming, the compulsion for someone to be as they are, the actual nuance in the behavior and what fuels it along with the motivation are never actually explored (and, even then, isn't really a whole thing you'd tend to get into with randoms wherever due to the heavier material), which is again, just clearly someone who wants to write Shock Value the Character.

I haven't really gone deep at all in FF14 RP so my experience is very surface level, but it feels to me like RP in 14 is less segregated than it is in other games where I have had more RP experience. In FF14 it feels like there's a lot more bleed over from IC into OOC, and a lot more of that "casual RP" happens in more public spaces. Because of that it's hard to find an appropriate space for the more out there RP and characters. It's a lot easier for people to be personally offended by or bothered by extremes when the line between IC and OOC isn't as clear, even if extreme characters and perspectives could definitely fit within the FF14 RP landscape.

XIV roleplayers have significant difficulty in differentiating between IC and OOC on both sides at the best of times. Better to just not open that can of worms and stick to the meaningless Bar RP™.

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Originally Posted by Alaray

If you find people who want to write with a character of that nature, then you can. Most people I run into tend to find it uncomfortable, not all that fun, and pulls at allegorical experiences they may have had IRL before and don't really want to deal with in their own hobby that's often just for... well, fun.

In my experience, most people who choose to write characters as such tend to be pretty mediocre at actually writing a character and just want to make a scene/make other people feel uncomfortable for the sake of doing so and not for any compelling narrative. It almost always comes off as just someone's edgy high school fantasy. Especially since the actual themes at play, the morality of the theming, the compulsion for someone to be as they are, the actual nuance in the behavior and what fuels it along with the motivation are never actually explored (and, even then, isn't really a whole thing you'd tend to get into with randoms wherever due to the heavier material), which is again, just clearly someone who wants to write Shock Value the Character.

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The very same could be said about almost every RP players you know, ppl tend to be mediocre at writting and it has nothing to do with what they want to write, they just can't do it right and that's normal that's not an art for nothing.
Funny that you would tackle someone over it but only if they do stuff you clearly dont like.
And how many books did you sold yourself to have such a comment on others ?

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Originally Posted by xxmiamorecadenza

“Return to Watership Down from whence you came, you Redwall-lookin’ lass.”

I mean, that’s how I’d word it. Personally.

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Ya that would make sense if your an Au'ra yourself

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

Ya that would make sense if your an Au'ra yourself

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I-I’m a Lalafell. :[

Edit; Oh, you were responding to my other post. Whoops.

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Originally Posted by Izscha

The very same could be said about almost every RP players you know, ppl tend to be mediocre at writting and it has nothing to do with what they want to write, they just can't do it right and that's normal that's not an art for nothing.
Funny that you would tackle someone over it but only if they do stuff you clearly dont like.
And how many books did you sold yourself to have such a comment on others ?

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If you're going to write about delicate topics, you ought to write delicately.

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Originally Posted by Cyreil

Maybe because it requires you to put yourself into the mindset of being racist, xenophobic and intolerant.

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I mean rping a caricature of these things isn't hard.

Figure out what particular thing your character is biased against, anytime something comes up relating to your bias your character just does stuff disadvantageous to said bias.
It's not that hard and it really doesn't take any mindset it's just discrimination.

Lets not pretend it isn't easy to be a bad person and make advantageous decisions for fictional rp characters.

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Originally Posted by Alaray

If you're going to write about delicate topics, you ought to write delicately.

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I disagree, people are free to wrote how they wish.