Weird to call someone trying to get a BA clear a sniper because they're not in your pre-ordained group of approved players.
Please fix Baldesion Arsenal.
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11-01-2021, 01:32 PMFloortank
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11-01-2021, 01:32 PMBellsong
It sucks, and is one of the main reasons I'm hesitant to even try BA.
But I can't see SE actually doing anything about it with BA being so baked into eureka. The support fate would need to be changed/removed. They would have to make and dedicate instances to BA like they do for DRS, not to mention the flood of people that would be upset that it's more accessible. It's probably just too much programming and back end work for them to see as worthwhile/profitable.
I hate that this is pretty much always the case with SE, but at least they learned from their first mistake and didn't give trolling a platform in Delubrum, hopefully going forward they won't slip up again.
And I'd just like to mention that it's disingenuous at best to try an claim that some people aren't sniping portals with express intent to troll or disrupt an organized run simply for the sake of it. -
11-01-2021, 01:49 PMVirusOnlineThis is the biggest issue with systems they create around relics - from the moment it's been conceived it has become an issue that will cause feature creep. Refer to Diadem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bellsong
Worry not, vertigo inducing ozma shall soon be on the Moogle Tomestone Menu. (I kid, but Ozma does cause some vertigo for me which is why I have not cared for BA).
Easiest and best solution imo is to go ahead and simplify and scale BA and all of Eureka. We are entering the second expansion since Eureka was ever introduced. It is no longer current content and doing so does not disrupt the main gameplay design since Eureka is all about being side content. It is XIV's signature QA to do such and will allow many players to experience BA and get the mount. -
11-01-2021, 02:38 PMlezard21
??????????
OP is from Primal DC. Primal has not one, but TWO discords that organize multiple BA runs per day every day. In like 5 months of doing them on and off I've yet have to see:
- Main tank not getting in cause portal sniped (in fact there is no such thing as a "Main Tank" before portals, multiple Tanks go running Indomitable in the event one doesn't get the buff, DCs or another unfortunate event another tank can pick up)
- A leecher causing a wipe
- A wipe
Heck I'll even go as far as saying that in 15+ runs I've done I haven't heard about anyone sniping portals, mostly because whoever snipes a portal has a high chance of dieing and not getting Sac rezzed, and BA run hosts account for this possibility by not prefilling Support group in case someone from the main party does not make it in.
So I don't know why OP is bring this issue up like 4 years after the content patch when BA's have been running smoothly on the clock. -
11-01-2021, 05:52 PMCurisuAnd that is the same experience we have on the Light DC. (And Chaos is not much different)Quote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
2 Discords who organize runs in different ways. If you dont like A you go with B.
New player always have priority and everyone is welcome to join.
We provide explainaitions in English, French and German and can help in every language spoken in the EU.
But the Light DC community itself is nice and fair.
People wait about 3 min to pull any NM and for the special ones even longer to give people time to enter BA to join it.
I absolutly dont see a reason to change the unique experience that Eureka/ BA is offering.
Except the fragments.
Please let me exchange them for something.
Right now Eureka is more active then Bozja/ Zadnor and it is easier to find a group for BA then it is for DRS.Quote:
Originally Posted by VirusOnline
We have close to 100 BA signups for a run, every day, for over a month.
Im even able to fill a run on a weekday at 7am.
Lets see how it changes after EW, but I think it will become really active again, once the EW content is done. -
11-01-2021, 06:03 PMAluminumSirenI'm not going into specifics because A) I don't wont to give certain trolls any more attention and B) I don't want this to be yet another ba thread where everywhere argues about who is right vs pre-planned players and outside players. Both groups are doing what they're allowed to do according to SE. While some people are huge jerks about it, neither side is wrong, and IMO everyone should be able to do the content in a way that's fun, by either actually being able to do the content reliably, with their friends if they so choose, and with a group that communicates and has the ability to clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by lezard21
If you haven't seen any of these things, consider yourself extremely lucky. I've posted about a few specific instances in my other posts so I'm not going to go into that again.
[Explained poorly by my halloween addled brain. Runs are usually capped at 40 people in the main alliance raid. A full party of spots is left free so there's extra portals in case outside people come in. Despite this, we still have people out of the 40 not able to get in because so many portals are taken.]
I've seen as much as 4 support portals get taken from outside members as well. I've missed entire runs because not only was my main portal taken, but the support ones were taken as well. Also, a little refresher on time, BA was released with patch 4.55 which was in early 2019, so it's got a bit to go before it's 4 years old. And, unfortunately unlike other older content, as long as Eureka remains level capped and keeps the elemental damage system, the gear will always be relevant.
A 2 min google search will find you several OF and Reddit posts with literally hundreds of replies talking about issues in BA. So no, it's not just me, and no, ba has not been running smoothly "on the clock" every run. Some runs are fine, yes, many are not.
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...senal-Feedback
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/384650
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/384027
Here is also the direct reply from SE in the initial feedback thread:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post4896293
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First of all, I’d like to apologize for the stress you’ve experienced as a result of the entry requirements for the Baldesion Arsenal. And I’d like to thank you all for observing good manners when enjoying Hydatos and the Baldesion Arsenal.
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11-01-2021, 07:13 PMAnhra
Baldesions Arsenal could easily be fixed by simply letting us queue for it either like DR or castrum in Bozja. The whole Portal idea was a dumb design from the start and the lone fact that Discord channels are REQUIRED to keep this content alive shows how bad it truly is.
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11-01-2021, 07:47 PMCurisuIt is not broken, why would it need a "fix". It works as intended on the JP DC and you have no problem to do the content on the EU server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anhra
DRs also requires a Discord server to be possible, I dont see a problem in group content that needs a bit of coordination.
And lets ignore the fact that right now BA is more active then DRs.
By removing the portals you change nothing. Organization and preperation is still needed.
You would just take away the Hydatos thing and that removes the support fate. (that a lot of people like to have for the easy crystals)
It takes away the fairy buff from BA.
You will also lose a social aspect of the game, the communication with BA and the instance.
And it takes something unique away, in a game that with every Addon feels the same. -
11-01-2021, 11:44 PMAnhraIts not about the matter of it being broken or not, it is a large and unnecessary inconvenience that can easily be fixed and it would only bring advantages by inplimenting a proper way to queue for it like you can for Bozja. You can still organize your Runs with your Discord channels dedicated to it but forcing people indirectly into joining it, just because they want to do the content, only shows to me that the Dev's havent put enough thought into this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Curisu
And as for the matter of uniqueness, just because something is unique, it doesn't mean that it is good or useful. -
11-02-2021, 01:00 AMDoH
BA is such easy content though that the only place I could possibly see someone causing a wipe is on the final boss if they misplace a meteor. The whole thing might as well be an alliance raid in terms of difficulty. If someone doesn't know what they're doing and they queue in, just let them die and don't raise them - you in no way need a full alliance to steamroll BA these days given how many of the players have full-elemental-bonus gear / weapons. Even DRS is a joke these days after the buffs (both in terms of new lost actions as well as the honor buffs) they gave players for Bozja-related content in connection with the release of Zadnor and can be cleared with literally 1/2 the number of intended players (granted that DRS was modified to scale based on the number of players in the instance, but even when it was fresh, we were able to clear during the first few weeks even when our duelist failed and other people died and couldn't be raised due to bad RNG leading up to Queen).
That's not to say that the queue system they have for BA isn't dumb - it is. But I'm just saying that I doubt it's randos that are "causing wipes"... It sounds like you may have a more fundamental issue at play with the rest of the people in your raid group that's resulting in non-clears.