Mentor abuse DC on purpose

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Eh, you want to do EXs with randos then go to PF. Can't blame a person dipping from an unwinnable situation.

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Sure can. Don't queue for Mentor Roulette. You signed up for it.
I mean it's not like Sephiroth Ex is a hard fight to begin with.

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Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame

Actually, As I got two people who witness the behavior on Rathalos Ex and we were trying to talk to him when he came back but disconnected with no response and no DC logo, and 6 Other on Sephiroth Ex, with the same "No DC logo" thing, I can assure you that the disconnection he did wasn't random at all. Strangely enough, he didn't got DC on easy content like 8 man raid or Dungeon when I encountered him, but only on situation where it was difficult because of the sprouts or the content (Like Sephiroth Ex who is known to be a real pain to do.)



This is the biggest problem of being a Mentor... The image of this suffered quite a lot due to player who don't do the "Mentor" job correctly, just wanting the Asterope mount for the show and being toxic because they absolutely don't care about sprouts...

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In the end you cannot prove it was on purpose, the GM might suspect their actions but the reality is nothing will come of the your report. Maybe if people keep reporting such actions action might be taken. Though as someone who “DC’s” often from MSQ roulette and have had people “claim” they were going to report me I have never had any action or even had a GM speak to me regarding the issue.

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Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame

Actually, As I got two people who witness the behavior on Rathalos Ex and we were trying to talk to him when he came back but disconnected with no response and no DC logo, and 6 Other on Sephiroth Ex, with the same "No DC logo" thing, I can assure you that the disconnection he did wasn't random at all. Strangely enough, he didn't got DC on easy content like 8 man raid or Dungeon when I encountered him, but only on situation where it was difficult because of the sprouts or the content (Like Sephiroth Ex who is known to be a real pain to do.)

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Yeah, I know of a few mentors off hand on my datacenter that participate in that exact pattern of behavior. It's a widespread type of abuse, so I don't at all doubt that's exactly what that guy is up to.

Unfortunately it mostly comes down to the GM's having a very limited view of the situation, and pretty limited time to actually review it. Their policy ends up erring on the 'safer' side, which allows a lot of this behavior to go unpunished. Generally unless someone is either getting mass reported enough to justify a deeper investigation, or openly says "I am disconnecting in order to avoid the roulette penalty", it's unlikely they'll actually be actioned on the GM side of things.

My sister and I, as well as our friends, have had nothing but trouble with mentors. They don't do their class job or help, they are toxic as hell to everyone but most definitely sprouts and a lot of them admit they abuse the mechanics by DCing to avoid the penalty when they decide to dip out during multi wipes (if they aren't there to help or mentor, clearly they shouldn't be a mentor!). Something not only has to change with that easy to abuse DC thing, but with mentors in general. There are so many people joining it and giving the mentors a bad name, it is getting ridiculous. You can't do a trials or dungeons without at least seeing three of them a day.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Eh, you want to do EXs with randos then go to PF. Can't blame a person dipping from an unwinnable situation.

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Situations only become Unwinnable when people stop trying. You sound like you stop trying before the duty even starts if the game doesn't give you the one you want. Which means it's unwinnable because of you. It also means you're damaging the community by providing examples of negative behavior to new players.

When you queue a roulette, you agree to run any duty in that roulette. If you are not willing to run every duty in that roulette then do not queue that roulette.

I've had a few times where myself and the rest of the group intentionally sat around in duty chatting because of a player doing force DC's hoping to skip the abandon timer leaving that person the option of eating their timer, doing the duty, or waiting for the duty timer to expire. We reported the ones that blew up in chat at us because of this before they left and ate their timer.

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Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda

Situations only become Unwinnable when people stop trying. You sound like you stop trying before the duty even starts if the game doesn't give you the one you want. Which means it's unwinnable because of you. It also means you're damaging the community by providing examples of negative behavior to new players.

When you queue a roulette, you agree to run any duty in that roulette. If you are not willing to run every duty in that roulette then do not queue that roulette.

I've had a few times where myself and the rest of the group intentionally sat around in duty chatting because of a player doing force DC's hoping to skip the abandon timer leaving that person the option of eating their timer, doing the duty, or waiting for the duty timer to expire. We reported the ones that blew up in chat at us because of this before they left and ate their timer.

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That's alot of words, in fact it probably took longer to type than to unsynch the fight as is the norm.

Please report those mentors that do that.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Cool mentor bashing story bro. I've seen all types of players do it.

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Mentors should be an exception to this behavior, not another example of it.

300 more comms for my burger king crown and I WILL lead by example and explanation.

Too many dead-beat dad mentors out there.

Maybe they should add a second commendation system that counts solely towards applying for mentorship roles...One that doesn't give a player experience just for handing them out and gives no achievements or rewards for gathering enough but is required to apply for mentorship instead of regular comms.

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Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame

Mentor abuse dc...

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The mentor system? This utopia from the mind of Yoshi-P and his team, supposed to serve as an example...

Everyone knows that it's to get a nice mount after a long masochistic farm session, often devoid of skill.

Some turn on mentor's status just for fun.

You probably put too much importance on this "fabulous" system.

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Originally Posted by Bsrking5

Cool mentor bashing story bro. I've seen all types of players do it.

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When someone else does this, they only represent themselves.
When a mentor does it, they throw a shade on all mentors.

The problem is that they wore their Burger King crown.