Request: Please take MSQ dungeons out of the Mentor Roulette

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Originally Posted by LokiAlpha

The only thing that shows is a single run, assuming it wasn't done with an almost full group of friends. With that said, there was at least one random player, as it's clear you're showing "Excercising the Right" as almost having been completed. So basically, prove to me you're going into these solo and you're getting 77 minutes(or as you put it 45 minutes including the opening cut scene, which again is your MAXIMUM that you allowed) 6/10 times and we'll talk. I'm not saying, nor did I ever say, it's impossible to do that in a single run. Hell, even multiple runs that might happen, but that's not what you said. Again, let me reiterate your quote. YOUR words: "most Praetorium runs are cleared in 40-45 minutes."

This topic is clearly derailed from the original point with you overexaggerating the normality of a run like this. This is far from normal. You know that too. You're just trying to prove yourself right to create a false narrative for others reading the topic.

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Fine. We'll can keep on talking our own points to debate about, but at the end of the day, the devs won't take MSQ dungeons out of Mentor Roulette soon, even after they modify the 2 dungeons.

They'll probably remove the EX Primals off the roulette first before that happens.

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Originally Posted by LokiAlpha

So before you say that Mentor roulette is supposed to be used to help teach new players the game, please hear me out:

When a mentor gets Castrum or Praetorium chances are they are going to leave immediately. Castrum less so, because it can be done in about 20 to 25 minutes compared to Praetorium that is minimum 50 minutes. The only instance it ever takes more than 50 minutes to finish a mentor roulette are some of the harder EX trials like Ramuh, Nidhogg, etc.

So instead of doing a boring 50 minute Praetorium run, a mentor will likely rather take the 30 minute penalty.

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I'll take whatever Castrum/Praetorium runs you have and get a Mentor Roulette clear for each one for my Astrope mount win collection, and I'll trade you every failed/suceesful Mentor Roulette EX Primal run I had to match (since you did bring up Ramuh and Nidhogg EX in you opening post after all). Fair trade, right? Win-win for me at least when I get my clears in the end.

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Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu

Good for you and well done since I'll take your word for it here. Not everyone has the same experience as you. In fact, most of the upvoted replies in this following reddit thread pretty much illustrates how I feel on Extreme Trials in Mentor Roulette:

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Yes it´s my experience.

Some upvotes don´t say anything tbh. Being a mentor doesn´t mean TO BE a mentor. The most aren´t good players, are not able to teach fights or leave immediately anyway. Others do even cry "go unsynched" and don´t know whole fights.
Just had like 10 mentors lately which left Zurvan EX, one mentor (next to me) came in and stayed with us. What do you think who died at nearly any mechanic even on the upper platform?

I try to teach others even with language barriers and i´ve carried more than enough runs with a tank LB. I don´t remember every mechanic 100% too, but i play it with the newbies, see it and do the best i can. The most ppl learn and grow there.
But if the most mentors go in with a mind like "ühhhh EX, ühhhh castrum, whatever", it´ll go nuts. Ppl like i´ve mentioned, shouldn´t play mentor-roulette. It´s not even fair to waste the time of the newcomers like this.

I agree with OP. Mentors are not necessary at all during MSQ. We also talked about it there.