When will fans turn on Yoshi P?

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Originally Posted by MachaYum

Ffxiv is a cool game and all....but it’s quite a stretch to say Yoshi listens to us, lol. Unless a post has an absurd amount of up votes, chances are he won’t listen. And even if it does get a lot of up votes, it’s not even guaranteed to happen.

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There is a difference from listening and doing. I strongly believe they listen, but they may not do everything they hear. In some ways that is good, how many ideas have you seen? Some are too expensive, or bad, or don't fit the game, or ruin a content for someone else. I could easily put some of my desires under expensive lol (instances housing, complete glamour log, certain jobs, etc). Of course something's you wish they did spend the big bucks on but... Yeah.. lol.



They can't do everything even if all things were good ideas. I've seen a lot of content adjust based on forum comments, myself included. I think people would see this more if they extended their time frame to about 6 months, since ideas can't be represented instantly.


Even healer I believe was based on feedback. A lot of people commented that they wanted to heal focus... Obviously that didn't quite go right, since they just removed damage options without keeping the need for healing through all scaling of content (when people first started the expansion they were actually healing more.... But then gear and new abilities kicked in and it didn't keep, but less choices to damage did).


May say it is too old to be reliable or whatever, but I did ask, part of another site, long ago, how they handle forum stuff. They said they compile feedback frequently from all forums and spend quite a bit of time reviewing it.

I think that threads like this one are just unconstructive and useless. Honestly who cares if fans turn or not? This sort of thing belongs on the wow forums where things like this and dps meters matter.... apparently..

To say they don’t listen to fans is folly at best.

Housing only exists because the fans asked for it. There is zero gain for the company to add another housing area (or really to upkeep them).

The sage job exists because feedback/demand for a healer is so strong, especially for a chemist or tech based healer of sorts.

YoshiP specifically wanted to add Hrothgar, but used their developing time to also do Viera. They’re both a mess, but it is in direct response to the fan base.

The list can easily go on.

Also to the point of this post, OP often troll baits and does wild speculation, so not much need to take this seriously.

You're back, huh.

On topic, there's no need for anyone to "turn on", because if you're attentive enough - people spam what they believe is a "constructive criticism" on this exact forum every single day even about things that are barely announced and will be released in 6 months without even knowing what they will be like in place. What more do you expect? The big raid on his office in Tokyo?

Also saying that DevTeam doesn't listen to players is shortsighted. A lot of things and changes we have in game is result of players's feedback. Even some of "bad" changes and adjustments are the result of that same feedback. They do listen to players. It's just playing community that can't satisfied as a whole (simply because there are too much people to satisfy everyone).

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Originally Posted by LisSquid

There's also heavy evidence to suggest he doesn't hear about NA/EU feedback at all.

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This is true. We saw this when the backlash from the West started up after the race announcements leading up to Shadowbringers. That said, when he does interact with the western audience he does at least seem to be interested in our feedback and concerns. He does genuinely seem to want to make a game that is enjoyed by all its players. Its understandable that most of the feedback he gets and responds to is Japanese. That's the culture he's surrounded by, and those are the people he's most easily able to communicate with, and in general if he does go to visit worlds, they're normally Japanese servers.

So there are definitely improvements that could be made to hearing the feedback from the western players, but I will also say that it does seem that when it does get to him, he does so what he can to try to implement it, and that sometimes his hands are tied and he simply can not do what people are asking for because those above him won't give him the resources to do it.

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Originally Posted by Badmethod

I think that threads like this one are just unconstructive and useless.

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I mean, OP is a known troll, so.

I often don't get certain changes but when YoshiP comes out and does explain something it makes sense. I not always like it but that's another story. I'm glad we have him.

I think they already did. We already have 2 groups: Square Enix Simps Squad that will defend every decison of the devs, even wrong, and worship Yoshi P. And Square Enix Haters Squad, who technically still play the game, because despite major flaws it's still pretty good, but would probably want new dev team leader, because Yoshi P is limiting potential of talented dev team.

I'm personally in the latter team.

And the third group, those of us who enjoy the game and appreciate the dev team's work, but will still speak up about its flaws.

If he adds some basic stiletto shoes (dyeable in mogstation) he will be my hero for life :D:D:D