Garuda= Toughest Fight yet?

While it may be the toughest fight we have yet. I think a lot of people and SE are underestimating some of the groups on this game. They keep saying "this fight is the hardest content yet" But as the game progresses and people are getting better gear + the battle system reform. fights have become easier as a whole. DH was tough at 1st (not sure when the 1st clear was) Ifrit was to. Moogle's and CC/AV were going to be harder we were told. Yet all 3 were beaten in the 1st night. I just have a hard time not seeing the same thing happening to Garuda.

But I really hope I'm wrong and it does take awhile to beat.

It's mostly subjective when you get down to it. It's a tough fight, but of course people will find the class stacking...err most efficient way to take it down, but in terms of content? Each content is harder as it goes because they have to design with x,y,z in mind. For example Ifrit was designed without materia in mind and before battle system was fully reformed. Moggle mog was designed with materia in mind so chances are those with pimped out materia gear will no doubt have an easier time than a ragtag group of people wearing their starter gear, even doing "naked" runs is much more likely on Ifrit than it is in moggle mog.

So in terms of concept it can indeed be the toughest content yet, but in terms of execution? It's all in how Garuda herself is designed.

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

While it may be the toughest fight we have yet. I think a lot of people and SE are underestimating some of the groups on this game. They keep saying "this fight is the hardest content yet" But as the game progresses and people are getting better gear + the battle system reform. fights have become easier as a whole. DH was tough at 1st (not sure when the 1st clear was) Ifrit was to. Moogle's and CC/AV were going to be harder we were told. Yet all 3 were beaten in the 1st night. I just have a hard time not seeing the same thing happening to Garuda.

But I really hope I'm wrong and it does take awhile to beat.

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Moogle was Beaten Quick because of the Archer Exploit, an people just started to use it, since it was giving them wins. Moogle would have probably still would have went down in less time then iffy, but that's neither here or there :P. the 2 New Dungeons Can be hard if you don't know what your doing, AV being the worse, because of the Poison Gas, 1 step in the Yellow puddle is Practically Insta Death. For Elite Groups yeah of Course all Content from any game is considered " Easy" to them. But the people that are not inclined to that nature, it is considered Medium difficulty.

Correct. I just have a hard time seeing SE designing her in a way that will stump the Elite Groups of the game. Once they beat it and put out the video's people will copy them and start beating it themselves. Yes you will have people that will struggle and find it challenging but for the most part I see many having it beat within the 1st couple of days. :/

If Moogle could go down in about 6 hours, you can bet Yoshi will have told the planner "go nuts" and to make it as hard as possible. I mean, that's the whole point of these fights, right?

Given the hardcore players now already have the best gear and weapons they can get their hands on, how long it takes will come down to how easily you can figure out the "trick" to beating her. ie: mind Ifrit's positioning; moogles in X order etc.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

If Moogle could go down in about 6 hours, you can bet Yoshi will have told the planner "go nuts" and to make it as hard as possible. I mean, that's the whole point of these fights, right?

Given the hardcore players now already have the best gear and weapons they can get their hands on, how long it takes will come down to how easily you can figure out the "trick" to beating her. ie: mind Ifrit's positioning; moogles in X order etc.

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That's typically how every fight has been. This game isn't gear dependent like other games are. It helps but isn't required sadly. Then again I really hope this fight is different and challenging.

Currently Wind based spells inflicts "Bleeding" now picture that with some other status, kinda like Diabolos in XI, Sleep+Bio.

mechanics from 11 primals? you mean bar spell and keep ppl hp at over 700 during the mobs 50 or 30% range tough?
HARDLY. these primals actually take a bit of skill. not a zerg then cure/buff then zerg again.
your making a mock of your own thought.

WAR/MRD has a skill that prevents them from being knocked back or at least it used too, Enduring March i think its called.

Garuda will be beaten in a time that has some people complaining about "easy mode". Many of us invest a lot of time into the game, have been playing for a long time and some of us are pretty damned good at it. If the content is scaled towards being extremely challenging for the very best players then those of us who are merely average won't be able to complete it at all. I'm not against this kind of extremely challenging content and do think there is a place for it in the game, but not yet. Later when there is more content for all will be the time to introduce a little really hard stuff but at the moment I think the devs are rightly concentrating on content we can all enjoy.
So if we're all to be able to enjoy it then it cannot be that difficult. It'll be beaten fairly quickly, but don't blame the devs for that any more than the players. It's just the stage the game is in.