Firmament Botting Out Of Control

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Unless they're out in the open where you can see them crafting, it's honestly not that easy to tell which players are using DoH bots unless they have an established history of botting in other ways (Which several players in my server's top 12 do) that are more easily identified, such as on DoL.

The ones who are using a script basically spam actions non-stop at a consistent pace and go through the crafts much quicker then an actual player would, though. I'm assuming this is why a lot of them choose to craft in places where they cannot be seen by others such as in inn rooms or their houses.

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So. Over the years i've picked up how to tell who DoH bots. The macro's we use have the <wait.2> type of line in them to adjust for things. If you see a bot crafting, they will smash their buttons in quick succession. Almost like a person is doing it. But once the craft is done, they immediately go back down on the ground. It's hard to explain on text without showing somebody in person when somebody is seen doing it. But you might get the gist. It's like what you said but it's almost like watching somebody spam weave moves lol

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Originally Posted by Lecru

All i'm hearing is you turning the other cheek to blatant use of third party apps. It's like Among Us. Makes you yourself look sus. YOu gonna sit here and tell us you're fine with botting and account sharing then?

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1.1m is difference of 9hrs vs my quite lazy score.
u can keep your hyperbole bc it's readily apparent you're better at complaining than crafting
particularly if u think a macro can push that hourly rate

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Originally Posted by hqdm

1.1m is difference of 9hrs vs my quite lazy score.
u can keep your hyperbole bc it's readily apparent you're better at complaining than crafting
particularly if u think a macro can push that hourly rate

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Again. I have my title. And you didn't answer my question. Go figure. And by all means, somebody macro crafting non experts can most certainly do 40k in a day turn in. That's legit been proven lmfao But there's a huge difference in what you're doing and what somebody pushing 1.1 mil points in 5 days is doing. Which is, again, account sharing or something else. Both of which are against ToS. Since you seem to be needing reminded of that

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Originally Posted by Lecru

Again. I have my title. And you didn't answer my question. Go figure. And by all means, somebody macro crafting non experts can most certainly do 40k in a day turn in. That's legit been proven lmfao But there's a huge difference in what you're doing and what somebody pushing 1.1 mil points in 5 days is doing. Which is, again, account sharing or something else. Both of which are against ToS. Since you seem to be needing reminded of that

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are u legit high? more straw men in this thread than my uncle's farm.
experience crafter can push 25-30k/hr without issue, 1.5-2min/craft avg. your server literally doesn't matter. your title literally doesn't matter.
at this rate, which a crafter with 1.1m surely has (or close to it, even if 20k, still v feasible), its a matter of mere hours.
over 5 days, 9 hr difference = 1-2h more than me daily, a lazy potato who still manages to do reasonably okay.

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I think you missed the part where I said i'm a Saint myself from last tier

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I went back and looked btw. I did miss it, because you didn't say it.
i think you need sleep more than I do, but I'm going to bed, so enjoy your unhinged ranting.

I'm curious, what's the absolute highest points per hour someone has claimed to be getting legitimately?

Because I'm averaging around maybe 20Kish hourly with optimal gear/melds/food, which means it would take around 15 hours of crafting daily to hit the 300Kish points some of the top ranks on my server are pushing.

I'm probably doing something wrong, though.

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Originally Posted by hqdm

are u legit high? more straw men in this thread than my uncle's farm.
experience crafter can push 25-30k/hr without issue, 1.5-2min/craft avg. your server literally doesn't matter. your title literally doesn't matter.
at this rate, which a crafter with 1.1m surely has (or close to it, even if 20k, still v feasible), its a matter of mere hours.
over 5 days, 9 hr difference = 1-2h more than me daily, a lazy potato who still manages to do reasonably okay.

I went back and looked btw. I did miss it, because you didn't say it.
i think you need sleep more than I do, but I'm going to bed, so enjoy your unhinged ranting.

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Am *I* high? Are YOU?? Experience LEGIT does not hav ea single thing to do with RNG of the craft. Period. Not the condition you're given nor the success rate of a skill used that's 50-60% chance.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I'm curious, what's the absolute highest points per hour someone has claimed to be getting legitimately?

Because I'm averaging around maybe 20Kish hourly with optimal gear/melds/food, which means it would take around 15 hours of crafting daily to hit the 300Kish points some of the top ranks on my server are pushing.

I'm probably doing something wrong, though.

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I have to say, and take this as a compliment please, I'm impressed you are still going for it with all you know about botting. Hope you manage to get your goals.

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I think my issue I'm seeing here with this is now that there's no new title, people who already have Saint are competing with new people who would like to get it, or even completing on multiple catagories (which imo is even worse, as it's not even a seperate achievement then). At least on my server most of the scores I'm seeing are legitimate, but I can't speak for other servers. I dont think anyone should be kept from doing it, because there are other achievements such as the "Featherfall's Finest" ones, but I would hope that they would implement something that if someone has multiple Saints, they only get one, and the other catagories the person in 13th would get it.

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Originally Posted by Driavna

I have to say, and take this as a compliment please, I'm impressed you are still going for it with all you know about botting. Hope you manage to get your goals.

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It currently doesn't seem prevalent enough to really endanger the efforts of anyone who's trying especially hard, but every bot in top 12 is one less person who actually deserved the title missing out.

The main thing I'm worried about is people deciding they want to rank in the last few days and using a bot to skyrocket through the rankings.