So it seems Square really dosnt want people to play Viera

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Originally Posted by MPK

I mean those are probably the 3 most people erp with soo....

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Pretty much LOL.
Know you know why people are do thirsty for male viera.
So people can have their cat/dragon boy and bunny boy yaoi.

As OP said, they set a precedent with Copied Factory, adjust the hats to work on Viera; then boom, the second raid comes out (Puppet's Bunker) and they can't wear some of the hats. They're being incredibly inconsistent.
hrothgar is hell, because of the volume of hair behind them + their slouch, to make hats work...but Viera? No

For a company with so much money and a reputation to uphold this is embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by Graylyn

That's not even bringing up that paid for hairstyle should also be made available for Viera seeing as we paid money for them.

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Why? It's very clearly stated that they're not available for Hrothgar and Viera. Just because you paid money for something doesn't magically make you entitled to something that was clearly stated upfront to not be available or that didn't yet exist when you purchased it.

https://i.imgur.com/OZlfghK.png

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Why? It's very clearly stated that they're not available for Hrothgar and Viera. Just because you paid money for something doesn't magically make you entitled to something that was clearly stated upfront to not be available or that didn't yet exist when you purchased it.

https://i.imgur.com/OZlfghK.png

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That's not the standard for mmos.
I can't think of any other mmo where you buy cosmetics you can't wear on specific races.

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

That's not the standard for mmos.
I can't think of any other mmo where you buy cosmetics you can't wear on specific races.

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So? /10char

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Originally Posted by Darsien

Standards set in other MMOs has no bearing on the reality of the situation in this MMO.

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Tell that to FFXIV 1.0, GW2, and world of warcraft; they do indeed have a lot of bearing to the reality of this mmo.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

So? /10char

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So it's wrong and will get them a constant and consistent criticism. Just like the many things FFXIV 1.0 got wrong for not adapting to the mmo standard. It's more than "so," these things have a way of adding up to the point where the dam breaks.

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Originally Posted by xxvaynxx

Pretty much LOL.
Know you know why people are do thirsty for male viera.
So people can have their cat/dragon boy and bunny boy yaoi.

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Wait how did you get a hold of my fan..... I mean yeah.... Those silly people...

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Originally Posted by Graylyn

they already set a presedent for a very hi profile cross-over raid chain with the first set of gear all working with Viera. its absolute bs that the second raid gear doesn't work with Viera when the first raid's gear does.

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There's a precedent there and they're following it, but it's one that goes beyond the raid and defines the types of headgear that work and the types that don't.

The first raid head pieces are headbands or small hats that don't affect the hair. Those work.

The second raid pieces are large hats that cover the entire upper half of the head. Those do not work.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

Why? It's very clearly stated that they're not available for Hrothgar and Viera. Just because you paid money for something doesn't magically make you entitled to something that was clearly stated upfront to not be available or that didn't yet exist when you purchased it.

https://i.imgur.com/OZlfghK.png

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When viera first came out they didn't have these warnings, but it's nice to see that they added them since then.

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

As OP said, they set a precedent with Copied Factory, adjust the hats to work on Viera; then boom, the second raid comes out (Puppet's Bunker) and they can't wear some of the hats. They're being incredibly inconsistent.
hrothgar is hell, because of the volume of hair behind them + their slouch, to make hats work...but Viera? No

For a company with so much money and a reputation to uphold this is embarrassing.

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SWTOR is probably worse about this. Three or more races as far as I know that can't wear any headgear. Not a norm, but also not unique to this game.

SE is content with viera/hrothgar being limited. I don't think they really feel there is much of a need to fit most headgear to them. They also seem to have a sense of quality control. They will let viera use some of the smaller hats, but the potential worst offenders of ear clipping are not usable.

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Originally Posted by Darsien

Standards set in other MMOs has no bearing on the reality of the situation in this MMO.

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Yeah because apparently people here have no standards. It's a "miracle" we get glasses, I have to laugh.

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Originally Posted by Graylyn

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They've said we're getting more but no timeline on when that will be, you can buy one of the working hats for Viera on the cash shop to support this struggling indie company in the meantime.