Living Dead and other DRK QOL in 5.3

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

That's the draw back.
Losing an Edge/Flood is a lot less costly than dying.

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What with "DRK must be punished" mindset? I hope you don't forget that we're looking for a "fix".

Try to add more problem while solving a problem can hardly solve anything.

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Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz

What with "DRK must be punished" mindset? I hope you don't forget that we're looking for a "fix".

Try to add more problem while solving a problem can hardly solve anything.

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It's not "punishment" it's resource management.
Or are you going to complain about TBN costing MP too?

Without any kind of draw back, LD would be unequivocally the best invuln in the game.
It's basically a Holmgang with an up to 10s buffer.

My suggestion would have the same effect as LD, but give you the ability to mitigate the drawback.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

It's not "punishment" it's resource management.
Or are you going to complain about TBN costing MP too?

Without any kind of draw back, LD would be unequivocally the best invuln in the game.
It's basically a Holmgang with an up to 10s buffer.

My suggestion would have the same effect as LD, but give you the ability to mitigate the drawback.

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Mitigate the drawback by losing the MP required for another Mitigate aka TBN. Hmmm....

Currently LD problem is it took too much resources but then you want us to lose the resources more.


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Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz

Mitigate the drawback by losing the MP required for another Mitigate aka TBN. Hmmm....

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Which is better than dying...
Plus you'll likely have already used TBN before LD, otherwise why are you using LD when you could have used TBN instead?

GNBs has a cost too, all their HP. Is that "punishment"?

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Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz

Mitigate the drawback by losing the MP required for another Mitigate aka TBN. Hmmm....

Currently LD problem is it took too much resource but then you want use to lose the resource even more.


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I don't think you understand just how much you lose when you die.
You lose all of your MP anyway...

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Which is better than dying...
Plus you'll likely have already used TBN before LD, otherwise why are you using LD when you could have used TBN instead?

GNBs has a cost too, all their HP. Is that "punishment"?

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A cost? which they don't have to pay by themselves because healer will be the one healing them and it only required for GNB to not dying to the upcoming auto attack and that's different than what the current LD is.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I don't think you understand just how much you lose when you die.
You lose all of your MP anyway...

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I don't think you understand just how invul ability supposed to work.

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Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz

I don't think you understand just how invul ability supposed to work.

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I mean, PLD is the only one who will survive after their invuln without the help of a healer.
DRK isn't an outlier just because it's invuln can literally kill it.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I mean, PLD is the only one who will survive after their invuln without the help of a healer.
DRK isn't an outlier just because it's invuln can literally kill it.

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WAR can heal themselves.
GNB can also heal themselves.

So then why does your proposed "fix" still have a 50% healing requirement instead of 100%?
That's still a cost, they still die if that 50% healing isn't met.
You're not fixing the problem, why are you only advocating for a half-fix if the idea of any cost is wrong?