I just got troll-kicked in Praetorium

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Originally Posted by Kurando

GMs have access to all the chat logs, you don't need to provide these just give them the report details like time/date, duty name, players involved etc and they can pull it up themselves. I don't think they accept screenshots, but the Support Desk menu has a template for all the stuff you need to fill out anyway

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Thanks, I'll give it a shot!

"・Improper expulsion voting
This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting"

https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...6&id=5382&la=1

Thanks google!

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Originally Posted by Siete

Party leader was AFK the whole run, who else can start the votekick but the party leader?
If not AFK he was just jumping around with other 4 players, when we had to use the magitek armor they just sit in front of the blasting gate.
So I know who I should be reporting.

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Anyone can initiate a Vote Dismiss, party leader in PF doesn't really mean anything. Something I've noticed is that people are sheep when the Vote Kick bubble appears. They just brainlessly click yes.

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Originally Posted by Siete

Party leader was AFK the whole run, who else can start the votekick but the party leader?
If not AFK he was just jumping around with other 4 players, when we had to use the magitek armor they just sit in front of the blasting gate.
So I know who I should be reporting.
Oh, and for what? Harrassment.



So the system kicks me for running the instance with other two guys while the rest of the party is AFK?
Cool.

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Nah, I was referring to the other people and why you might see vote kicks pop up for random people, with the reasoning being AFK. For you being kicked, my other statement relates to that. You could report it, IF you knew who initiated it.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

Nah, I was referring to the other people and why you might see vote kicks pop up for random people, with the reasoning being AFK. For you being kicked, my other statement relates to that. You could report it, IF you knew who initiated it.

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Well, only the leader can do that and I have a screenshot with the party and the leader so...

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Originally Posted by Siete

Party leader was AFK the whole run, who else can start the votekick but the party leader?
If not AFK he was just jumping around with other 4 players, when we had to use the magitek armor they just sit in front of the blasting gate.
So I know who I should be reporting.
Oh, and for what? Harrassment.



So the system kicks me for running the instance with other two guys while the rest of the party is AFK?
Cool.

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Literally anyone in the party can votekick. It's not just the party leader. Party leader just handles refilling.

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Originally Posted by Siete

I'm asking because I'm relatively new and I don't want to open a ticket for some invalid reason.
Perhaps you assumed that out of projection?
My only satisfaction is gone because I lost almost one hour out of the three hours of relax I get at home thanks to them, and they're never coming back.
I want fairness.




I pretty much said nothing else, I've got screenshots. Can I post them here if I censor the names?

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Here is the thing, the community has no way of telling you if a vote is valid, only ones who can determine that are the GM's, and even then you will not know if action was taken against said person so it is sort of up in the air nothing has really changed if you report them or not. As someone else mentioned only a GM is able to answer your question, all we can do is speculate, and with the amount of info you provided we cannot even do that to a great degree. So, you say it is out of fairness, I say you are seeking some form of validation or satisfaction.

Though for in the sake of fairness since you are asking the community how are we expected to provided an answer if it is valid with only one side of the details, and that side being a recollection from the person that was wronged? Does that seem fair?

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Originally Posted by Siete

"・Improper expulsion voting
This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting"

https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...6&id=5382&la=1

Thanks google!

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Rules in this game are wonky, since they only take what happens in the game as evidence, so unless the party said something, and the person who gets reported even gets contacted by the GM is such horrible liar they rat themselves out no action probably will be taken. Silent kicks are a pain prove that they were done as a means of harassment.

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Originally Posted by Awha

Here is the thing, the community has no way of telling you if a vote is valid, only ones who can determine that are the GM's, and even then you will not know if action was taken against said person so it is sort of up in the air nothing has really changed if you report them or not. So, you say it is out of fairness, I say you are seeking some form of validation or satisfaction.

Though for in the sake of fairness since you are asking the community how are we expected to provided an answer if it is valid with only one side of the details, and that side being a recollection from the person that was wronged? Does that seem fair?

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The question falls in the hypothetical case what I say can be and IS true and wether under that condition it is a valid reason to report.
I googled it, FFXIV support page says yes. I've the proof, I'll run the report and let SE decide.
If you think losing one hour of my busy life is a form of satisfaction or validation, that's on you.

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Originally Posted by Siete

The question falls in the hypothetical case what I say can be and IS true and wether under that condition it is a valid reason to report.
I googled it, FFXIV support page says yes. I've the proof, I'll run the report and let SE decide.
If you think losing one hour of my busy life is a form of satisfaction or validation, that's on you.

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What you say differs from my view of fairness, since I do not think it is fair to ask others to judge a situation without all the information, but hey if that is fairness to you fine it is subjective and can vary from person-to-person so yeah, still going to stand by this is out of some form of satisfaction or validation. I also stand by my other comment, I am rooting for you man.

Well point is I'm playing this game because it's relaxing and I can have fun and distract myself with no bullying at all, unlike WoW which ambient was terrible.
Heck, votekicks in that game were a "for the lulz", had seen vote kicks pass because "I don't like blood elves" and boom, player gone just like that.
This is the first time it happens to me in FFXIV and it was PTSD triggering.