Why are white mages allergic to regen?

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Some reason I want this typo in comic form.

<Use Regen
<Burst into flames

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Maybe this is why Afflatus Misery deals damage lol

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Originally Posted by Hash_Browns

Can we trade places?
Healers keep regening me as I'm pulling, and stealing my aggro.

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A single 100 pot tempest spam while you're running fixes that.

With the changes to TP there is zero reason to not be spamming aoe / ranged attacks as you're running.

Regen should be treated like a dot. It should have 100% uptime on the main tank. Regen helps you heal the tank while doing dps. You should feel bad whenever you let it fall off and don't quickly reapply it. Regen is often the best remedy for a dps got hit by something as well. As long as you know some big raid wide damage isn't coming up, regen should be enough to top them off. If they can't survive long enough for it to heal them then that's their problem.

I don't mind using regen but you will not find me upkeeping it needlessly. In dgns, that's just an invitation to get aggro mid pull. In raids/boss battles, if I know my party is not gonna get smacked by raid wide aoes for the next 15-30 secs, I'd prefer the conservative route and heal only as much as needed. This doubly goes now for shb where we only have 10k mana at any given moment. As a former healer mentor once told me: anyone can be a good healer. Not everyone can be an efficient healer. The distinction didn't make much sense to me at first but it became much, much more apparent later.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Regen should be treated like a dot. It should have 100% uptime on the main tank. Regen helps you heal the tank while doing dps. You should feel bad whenever you let it fall off and don't quickly reapply it. Regen is often the best remedy for a dps got hit by something as well. As long as you know some big raid wide damage isn't coming up, regen should be enough to top them off. If they can't survive long enough for it to heal them then that's their problem.

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Heck no. Regen uses gcd, that's actually dps downtime. My other heals are more than effective enough to heal.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

I don't mind using regen but you will not find me upkeeping it needlessly. In dgns, that's just an invitation to get aggro mid pull. In raids/boss battles, if I know my party is not gonna get smacked by raid wide aoes for the next 15-30 secs, I'd prefer the conservative route and heal only as much as needed. This doubly goes now for shb where we only have 10k mana at any given moment. As a former healer mentor once told me: anyone can be a good healer. Not everyone can be an efficient healer. The distinction didn't make much sense to me at first but it became much, much more apparent later.

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There's no such thing as pulling aggro mid pull anymore. The only way you can pull of a tank now is if a) they're severely undegeared b) they aren't pushing their buttons at all c) they don't have tank stance on

If I know the mobs will die before a new regen expires, I usually wont re-apply it because I don't want aggro from the next pull, but for the most part I keep regen rolling as I am able because it's very efficient healing and allows me more time to DPS. Regen keeps the tank healthy while I spam Holy... and I like spamming Holy. :P

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

There's no such thing as pulling aggro mid pull anymore. The only way you can pull of a tank now is if a) they're severely undegeared b) they aren't pushing their buttons at all c) they don't have tank stance on

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I just start WHM like last week and by spammed dungeons, I've quickly gotten up to lvl 52. I've managed to pull aggro from the tank with regen at least 50 times already. It got to the point I went on reddit to ask when I was suppose to use regen because it kept getting me slapped around by mobs. I never had this problem when I tank, but it seems to be a common problem with most tanks leveling to 50.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

A single 100 pot tempest spam while you're running fixes that.

With the changes to TP there is zero reason to not be spamming aoe / ranged attacks as you're running.

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I DO use AOEs. However, if enemies are scattered when they aggro, as then tend to be, my AOE range isn't enough to get every enemy before the regen ticks, and they instantly go for the healer, resulting in me stopping, back tracking, and taking back aggro.

So, ya know.. healers.. if you could just NOT throw regen on me mid-pull while I'm at full HP, that would be great.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

There's no such thing as pulling aggro mid pull anymore. The only way you can pull of a tank now is if a) they're severely undegeared b) they aren't pushing their buttons at all c) they don't have tank stance on

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-Queue as healer

-Wait until tank is just about to get close enough to a set of mobs

-Slap a regen

-Watch those mobs run to you

Here, I'd have a fancy flowchart but typically one of these two things will happen next:

A) Tank's not fast or does not react fast enough to aoe grab them and they take a good chunk out of you

B) Tank reacts quickly enough but since you weren't basically hugging him as he was running, they get a couple of yards in before they decide to run back to tank.