Alot of hate on new job iterations o.O

EA needs to not be bugged at all, pets need to be buffed, makes little to no sense i can EA during phoenix pre level 80 but then cant afterwards, numbers need to be buffed across the board

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Originally Posted by ShadowNyx3

Yeah the sample size on that poll was definitely skewed towards newer or more casual Summoners. Look in most places and it's being eviscerated just as much as it's being praised, including the JP forums.

I also don't see a vote count so for all we know that's like 1000 people.

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Standard Statistics gripe here, but 1000 people is more than enough to build a bell curve with confidence. Once you've exceeded 30 pretty much every response you get will fall within that range and not go out beyond 3 standard deviations of the average.

Here's a link to the google docs with the results.

Here's a link to the actual survey results, it looks like it's still actually live and accepting responses and Summoner's satisfaction is dropping.

I really like the NIN gameplay, it has a lot of loss-and-gain split decisions and choices.
Sadly doesn't feel as rewarding for the effort right now...

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Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd

Standard Statistics gripe here, but 1000 people is more than enough to build a bell curve with confidence. Once you've exceeded 30 pretty much every response you get will fall within that range and not go out beyond 3 standard deviations of the average.

Here's a link to the google docs with the results.

Here's a link to the actual survey results, it looks like it's still actually live and accepting responses and Summoner's satisfaction is dropping.

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Gotta love being orange in satisfaction.

I've found that after running EX with DRK, I like it in EX content, not so much dungeons. Got Crown of the Immaculate on my first try with the help of a friend and competent party, wasn't comfortable with my DPS just yet but I can see how to improve. In dungeons, I'm bored or not enjoying the feel. I'd like more self sustaining elements or faster CD.

I don't like healing in trials, but I do enjoy WHM in dungeons. Thin Air/Presence of mind+slap a Divine on the tank and Holy Holy Holy.

Doesn't mean much since I’m in a small minority but I still really enjoy playing Scholar. I done the whole of the MSQ with it and didn’t find it particularly slow or tedious.

Not trying to say that the job doesn’t need changes or that these complaints aren’t valid, just that there are some who did enjoy the job haha

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Originally Posted by Idolon

People who dislike the changes come here to complain. People who like the changes tend not to post anything, probably because they're too busy playing the game.

I, for one, am loving how the new Machinist plays, though I haven't had a chance to use it in many longer fights yet, so it's possible I just haven't run into any problems it has.

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there are people who came to the forum to say they love the new machinist, so its possible the new machinist just isn't actually bad/boring/depressing

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Originally Posted by ShadowNyx3

Yeah the sample size on that poll was definitely skewed towards newer or more casual Summoners. Look in most places and it's being eviscerated just as much as it's being praised, including the JP forums.

I also don't see a vote count so for all we know that's like 1000 people.

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"Definitely has to be wrong because it doesn't align with with my own views"

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Originally Posted by Idolon

People who dislike the changes come here to complain. People who like the changes tend not to post anything, probably because they're too busy playing the game.

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Pretty much this. I love the new DRK; I feel like I have a tool for almost everything that comes my way, and the class tends to be very busy once you get the cooldown and MP management figured out. DNC is also great fun, and while it has occasional doldrums where you just get terrible luck with procs, it also has moments of insane button mashing when the procs come flying in. AST and WHM are not nearly as bad as I've been led to believe, and GNB has been a joy so far.

Just because I don't post anything doesn't mean I hate the new jobs iteration. Also, I don't feel inclined to defend my position on this matter on every single negative thread. So what you read is negativities feeding on other negativities resulting in an even bigger negativities, all from a couple of same people.