WAR Same HP as Others

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Originally Posted by NyneSwordz

No only that, Defiance no longer gives bonus Parry based on gauge level. Deliverance no longer exists, so the bonus Crit based on gauge level is also gone.

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Did they really state that those bonuses are gone in ShB? Considered we still got the beast gauge, we don't really know how it works yet.

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Originally Posted by Jojokomoko

Did they really state that those bonuses are gone in ShB? Considered we still got the beast gauge, we don't really know how it works yet.

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except the toolkit misses that detail the crit/parry bonus from you gauge it's removed yeah.

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Originally Posted by NyneSwordz

No only that, Defiance no longer gives bonus Parry based on gauge level. Deliverance no longer exists, so the bonus Crit based on gauge level is also gone.

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I believe this has been removed since SB. This thing only existed back when we had stacks instead of gauges.

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Originally Posted by Freyyy

I believe this has been removed since SB. This thing only existed back when we had stacks instead of gauges.

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No. It's literally in the game right now.

This is nice. In my static ill be MT as paladin, and my OT is a War!

All is as it should be again. What a wonderful world!

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Originally Posted by Kalise

No. It's literally in the game right now.

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Okay I don't know why I was pretty sure that this was removed.

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Originally Posted by Drayce1

This is nice. In my static ill be MT as paladin, and my OT is a War!

All is as it should be again. What a wonderful world!

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Except Thrill, free Equilibrium and especially Holmgang, still put WAR leagues above PLD in terms of MTing, while PLD still has way better OT options. You do you though.

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Originally Posted by shao32

except the toolkit misses that detail the crit/parry bonus from you gauge it's removed yeah.

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Have we actually seen the new Beast Gauge guide thing though? If crit bonus is just baked into gauge regardless of stance now, then it'd be natural to remove mention of it from Defiance tooltip, especially since gauge is no longer linked to stance i any way.
Not saying it's still there, but I'd really like to see a ui confirmation, before I jump the gun on that and it seems none of the media-tour guests actually screenshotted it.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

A lot of WARs just never used the tank stance that gave them that extra health anyway.

They are still health-centric because of Thrill of Battle and gaining self-heals from attacks via Storm's Path and Nascent Flash.

They could alter WAR's trait to that but maybe it would make it harder to balance content correctly. SE will have a better idea of that than us.

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i mean PLDs and DRKs didnt want to be in their tank stances much either.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

It’s the biggest disappointment of the expansion so far.
But there’s time for more.

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If you think about it, that's a sad statement, considering it hasn't released yet. Lol

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Originally Posted by Satarn

Have we actually seen the new Beast Gauge guide thing though? If crit bonus is just baked into gauge regardless of stance now, then it'd be natural to remove mention of it from Defiance tooltip, especially since gauge is no longer linked to stance i any way.
Not saying it's still there, but I'd really like to see a ui confirmation, before I jump the gun on that and it seems none of the media-tour guests actually screenshotted it.

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as far i know we don't have any screenshot of the gauge info actually, most asumitions come since the info about the parry/crit is on the respectives stances and in the new defiance it's not, so idk.